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Christians teach there are to be no more prophets, yet John saw two prophets save the Jews in the last days. Please explain this. Use only scriptures...opinions are nothing.

2007-04-10 08:08:33 · 14 answers · asked by msender77 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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This passage does not necessarily imply two prophets.

The word “two” evidently denotes that the number would be small; and yet it is not necessary to confine it literally to two persons, or to two societies or communities.

Perhaps the meaning is, that as, under the law, two witnesses were required, and were enough, to establish any fact (notes on Joh_8:17), such a number would during those times be preserved from apostasy as would be sufficient to keep up the evidence of truth; to testify against the prevailing abominations, errors, and corruptions; to show what was the real church, and to bear a faithful witness against the wickedness of the world.

The law of Moses required that there should be two witnesses on a trial, and this, under that law, was deemed a competent number. See Num_35:30; Deu_17:6; Deu_19:15; Mat_18:16; Joh_5:30-33.

The essential meaning of this passage then is, that there would be “a competent number” of witnesses in the case; that is, as many as would be regarded as sufficent to establish the points concerning which they would testify, with perhaps the additional idea that the number would be small.

There is no reason for limiting it strictly to two persons, or for supposing that they would appear in pairs, two and two; nor is it necessary to suppose that it refers particularly to two people or nations.

The word rendered “witnesses” - μάρτυρί marturi - is that from which we have derived the word “martyr.” It means properly one who bears testimony, either in a judicial sense Mat_18:16; Mat_26:65, or one who can in any way testify to the truth of what he has seen and known, Luk_24:48; Rom_1:9; Phi_1:8; 1Th_2:10; 1Ti_6:12.

Then it came to be employed in the sense in which the word “martyr” is now - to denote one who, amidst great sufferings or by his death, bears witness to the truth; that is, one who is so confident of the truth, and so upright, that he will rather lay down his life than deny the truth of what he has seen and known, Act_22:20; Rev_2:13.

In a similar sense it comes to denote one who is so thoroughly convinced on a subject that it is not susceptible of being seen and heard, or who is so attached to one that he is willing to lay down his life as the evidence of his conviction and attachment.

The word, as used here, refers to those who, during this period of “forty and two months,” would thus be witnesses for Christ in the world; that is, who would bear their testimony to the truth of his religion, to the doctrines which he had revealed, and to what was required of man - who would do this amidst surrounding error and corruption, and when exposed to persecutions and trials on account of their belief.

It is not uncommon in the Scriptures to represent the righteous as witnesses for God.

2007-04-10 08:30:26 · answer #1 · answered by Ask Mr. Religion 6 · 1 1

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2016-10-02 12:02:11 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I got something different out of that. Aren't Gentiles non-Jews?
Revelation 11
The Two Witnesses

2But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.

In verse 3 it explains that God will empower His witnesses.
3And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth." 4These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth. 5If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die.

Verse 7 is what happens after the two prphets are killed.
7Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. 9For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

10 is about God saving His people from the wicked. Clearly the "inhabitants" are wicked. The two prophets were tormenting the wicked (probably in effort to save the innocent).

11But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

13At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14The second woe has passed; the third woe is coming soon.

God knows that the wicked will never accept Him so, they are punished with death. The survivors are meant to survive because they will (or will be given the chance to) accept God.

2007-04-10 08:32:20 · answer #3 · answered by Lifted by God's grace 6 · 0 0

SOME Christians teach there are to be no more prophets. There is a difference between a prophet who issues scripture, such as Isaiah, Jeremaiah etc. and a prophet who speaks to men for edification and comfort per I Cor 14:23. The bible is clear that we are not to add to the Word of God, but it is equally clear that we are to exercise spiritual gifts for exhortation etc. 1 Cor 14:26.

Broad brushing is often a bad idea...
Tom

2007-04-10 08:15:05 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

God's prophets were privileged to proclaim his message publicly. The Hebrew term for “prophet” (na·vi´´) has an uncertain etymology, but its use in the Bible indicates that true prophets were spokesmen for Jehovah, men of God with inspired messages. The Greek word rendered “prophet” (pro·phe´tes) literally means “a speaker out,” to say something “in front of” or “before” someone. A prophet is one who proclaims messages attributed to a divine source. Often, but not always, God’s true prophets predicted future events.

Regarding the striking role of the prophets in God’s arrangement, M’Clintock and Strong’s Cyclopædia states: “Sometimes their advice was asked . . . But much more frequently they felt themselves inwardly moved to address the people without their advice having been asked, and they were not afraid to stand forward in places where their appearance, perhaps, produced indignation and terror.” (Volume VIII, page 640) Consider some examples of what prompted the prophets to take such a courageous stand.

In caring for his assignment, God’s prophet Moses initially had the help of his older brother, Aaron. Jehovah told Moses: “[Aaron] must speak for you to the people; and it must occur that he will serve as a mouth to you.” (Exodus 4:16) Consider, too, the days of the prophets Elijah and Elisha, when “the sons of the prophets” flourished. These appear to have been groups of God’s servants who worked together, undoubtedly enjoying pleasant companionship with one another. (2 Kings 2:3-5; 4:38; compare 1 Samuel 10:5, 10.) Of course, Moses and Aaron and “the sons of the prophets” were not engaged in declaring the good news of the Kingdom. Nevertheless, their association was beneficial to all of them. Centuries later Jesus Christ sent 70 disciples out into the ministry “by twos,” and doubtless these benefited from the companionship thus provided.—Luke 10:1-16; compare Acts 17:10, 11; 20:20.

So, taking into consideration, as you said, that the Bible explains certain miraculous events would no longer take place in later periods of time, but would be done away with and that it also explains that scripture is all a person needs to be wholly competent toward God, (1 Corinthians 13:8-10; Hebrews 1:1,2; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17), we must realize the prophets spoken of in Revelation are of an illustrative nature. The book of Revelation is almost entirely presented in symbolic language.

Taking the definition of prophet,“a speaker out,” to say something “in front of” or “before” someone, and to take Jesus' example of sending his disciples out by twos, it seems reasonable to suggest the two prophets spoken of in Revelation 11 represent those who are proclaiming God's messages today, as Jesus instructed his followers to be doing. (Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20)

2007-04-10 08:32:34 · answer #5 · answered by berdudget 4 · 0 0

Who said Christians teach there will be no more prophets?

"But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughter shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:" (Acts 2:16-19)

Remember, there are two kinds of prophets. Those who tell the future (prophecy) and those who preach the Word of God (prophesy).

2007-04-10 08:17:51 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

There are prophets even now.
That don't make their living at it as in the old days.
When you meet a prophet you will know you have met one.
They only show up when there is a need.
Women serve in that office also.
Sometimes it will be a member of your own family.

Sometime that person is scary.
I speak from experience.

What you think are opinions are not opinions.

2007-04-10 08:18:38 · answer #7 · answered by chris p 6 · 1 2

when have you heard christians say that there are no more prophets? i was taught that there was.

The last two prophets do have a huge mystery that surrounds them. I mean as to who they are...Most bible thumpers say it is moses and elijah. However the bible says they are supposed to be on the earth for 3 years and six months( And I will give power unto my Two Witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." ) then they will be killed and will rise again to meet christ in heaven along with all the other "dead in christ". According to revelation only the beast from the bottomless pit will overcome them and kill them. And only when their testimony is done.

mostly i just think that john was exiled on an island filled with natural hallucigents.

2007-04-10 08:23:12 · answer #8 · answered by Sheriff of R&S 4 · 0 2

Most things in the book of Revelation are symbolic.
The two prophets then, must symbolize God's people ....since Satan (the dragon) is agaianst them.
According to Chapter 11, verse7, this group has the responsibility to do 'witnessing'.
That is a clue to their prophesying.
They do not have any original prophecies, but they do tell out and explain prophecies already written in the Bible and about to be fulfilled in our time.
Jehovah's Witnesses have a book on all that stuff.

2007-04-10 08:21:07 · answer #9 · answered by Uncle Thesis 7 · 1 3

Read this: JOEL 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:"
The prophets always have existed from the beginning to the last days.

2007-04-10 08:22:06 · answer #10 · answered by Julian 2 · 3 0

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