Why is it that anytime someone asks question critical of scientology a scientologist....?

Question

Whenever someone asks a critical question about scientology a scientologist responds with a bunch of propaganda. Most give references to various websites with different names. What many might not know is that it is the practice of the "church" to create organizations with positive sounding names, like some organization for "religious tolerance"? This is a tactic which attempts to add credibility to the worldwide cult.

One could argue that all religion is a cult, but what separates scientology is their abusive tactics and complete internal intolerance for questioning of anything that their great leader, Hubbard (a complete fraud) asserted.

The "church" no longer enjoys tax exempt status.

Answer 1

You're right, there are several "front groups", but most can easily be tracked back to "WISE" (World Institute of Scientology Enterprises). http://www.lermanet.com/frontgroups.html

You're also right about the abusive tactics. With so much information readily available on the web and in the news, it's a wonder that anyone ever joins:

• Operation Snow White – Under this program, Scientology operatives committed infiltration, wiretapping, & theft of documents in government offices. This program constituted the single largest infiltration of the United States government in history. Among the 11 prominent Scientologists convicted of this conspiracy was Mary Sue Hubbard, the wife of Scientology’s “prophet”.
http://lisatrust.freewinds.cx/scientology/snow-white/index.html
http://en.allexperts.com/e/o/op/operation_snow_white.htm

• Operation Freakout - Their campaign of sabotage & violence against Paulette Cooper, the writer who published her research & findings on several cults, including Scientology. Scientology’s official plan: to frame Paulette, ruin her career & reputation & get her either incarcerated or locked up in psychiatric confinement.
The official plan: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Krasel/cooper/frk1.html
Her book (free pdf): http://holysmoke.org/cos/books/scandal-of-scientology-cooper.pdf

• Fair Game - the Scientology policy detailing how the organization may confront & handle critics & perceived enemies. Here is a direct quote: "Enemies may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.”
http://www.xenu.net/archive/disk/fairgame.htm
http://www.planetkc.com/sloth/sci/Fair_game_ord.html

• Physical and psychological maltreatment: Scientologists who "break the rules" while members of the "Sea Org" must subject themselves to the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), which includes regimes of harsh physical punishment, forced self-confessions, social isolation, hard labor and intensive ideological indoctrination.
http://www.xenu-directory.net/practices/rpf.html
http://www.lermanet2.com/scientology/gulags/BrainwashinginScientology'sRehabilitationProjectForce.htm
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/rpf/escape_2.htm

• Violent Kidnapping - Lisa McPherson was a Scientologist, was involved in a car accident & resultantly became mentally unstable. She was kidnapped from the hospital by agents of Scientology, held against her will, refused proper psychiatric treatment & allowed to STARVE TO DEATH.
Video: http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
Website: http://www.lisamcpherson.org/

• Tragic Murder - A CBS “48 Hours” special on Jeremy Perkins, the mentally disturbed son of Scientologist parents who refused to put him on the anti-psychotic drugs that would have stabilized him & prevented him from killing his own mother.
Video: http://www.scientomogy.com/jeremy_perkins.php
CBS article: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/25/48hours/main2124568.shtml

Answer 2

Scientology is a very strange belief system but the main objection is that they charge for spiritual activities. If it was a company like est was or Landmark is I would have fewer objections. Scientology is tax exempt.

Answer 3

you are able to desire to realize that scientology replaced into devised via L Ron Hubbard, between the poorer Sci-Fi writers of the mid-twentieth century. He replaced right into a charlatan, a huckster, and extra advantageous than fairly screwy. I would desire to have confidence that scientology began out as one in all L Ron's devious little "enable's see how stupid persons fairly are" type of jokes. And unexpectedly he had a sort of sketch "runaway snowballs" on his hands. Ron replaced into many stuff - yet not too stupid to holiday the snowball because it became a juggernaut. i assume I could be careful approximately asserting such issues. Scientology bashers usually discover unwelcome surprises of their mailboxes. in specific circumstances nasty letters. in specific circumstances poisonous snakes. (the two have surpassed off in the 80's.)

Answer 4

because you interfere with their revenue stream.

http://www.xenu.net/
contains all the information you need.

It's an evil cult designed to make money and nothing else . Its effects on believers are destructive.

Read "the road to xenu" - http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/xenu/ - an account of a girl who escaped scientology after 12 years!

The cult's core belief - no, I am not kidding here! - in the words of the founder:

"The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 5,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet, 178 billion on average) by mass implanting. He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanos (Incident II) and then the Pacific area ones were taken in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to Las Palmas and there "packaged".

His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc. was placed in the implants.

When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my tech development.

One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a time.

In December 1967 I knew someone had to take the plunge. I did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now, but only that given here is needful.

One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or to the body.

One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing. You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some large, some small.

Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error. Good luck."

Answer 5

Scientology is great when it teaches about self betterment. It rapidly goes down-hill when money becomes involved. I tell-tale warning sign!

Answer 6

Scientology is a cult by definition because of the lack of ETHICS by which they operate.

Answer 7

It's gone to their heads ever since the US Tax Court GAVE them Relious status, which was quite a shock to the IRS who was not used to loosing in that court.

Answer 8

Yawn....... why are you getting your knickers in such a knot?
The reason you get the response that is so "upsetting" to you is because we like to give the facts in the face of all the general lies, accusations, unfounded criticism, and general B.S. that get's thrown around on this forum about our religion.

What's your definition of a "critical question"anyway .....
these kinds of questions are just blatant accusations disguised as questions... like
Have you stopped beating your wife???

Personally I'm finding it beyond boring and no longer respond to these kinds of questions and neither do any other Scientologists ,there's only a couple who bother with this forum anyway, me included, and I'm getting close to letting you all get on with fighting amongst yourselves for a bunch of points.

Answer 9

I still dont know what the hell it is! Isnt it a cult? isnt all religion a cult?


weird....weird and dangerous.

Answer 10

Propanga?
One of my references is from the US Navy and the US Navy is not a Scientology front group!

The "church" no longer enjoys tax exempt status?
What country are you talking about?
In the USA Scientology has full tax exempt status.

Your same argument can be argued about all anti-Scientology web-sites. They are just propaganda.

THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY
Scientology is a path to find your own personal truth. These are the principles:

1. What is true for you is what you yourself observe to be true. (Because of this rule you can believe in anything you want: Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad or Dharma. Your own believes are your own business. It is a high crime in Scientology for anyone to tell you what to think or believe. You are expected to question everything in Scientology.)

2. Man is his spirit not his mind or his body.

3. The spirit creates its own mind. Please, do not confuse the mind with the brain that is a physical thing. The mind is a bank of mental image pictures as explained in Dianetics. These pictures serve the spirit to give him knowledge and experience. These pictures are composed of energy. The energy in the picture can affect the spirit. You can feel better by remembering something that you like or angry by remembering something else. These emotions are actually energy waves emanated by the picture. You can actually feel pain by remembering a pain memory. Sometimes these pictures are accompanied by ideas or considerations. Lets suppose that you father beat you mom up in front of you. Your father was the dominating figure so you might conclude that you have to act like your father in some situations. This is what we call on Scientology an aberration (a conclusion that is imposed to you by a mental picture). This picture is what we call an engram (a pain memory that affects your judgment and free will).

4. You can discharge the energy in these pictures through communication. This is Dianetics Auditing and is the oldest of hundreds of Scientology techniques used to improve the individual.

5. The Spirit creates his own emotions. Are you happy? Are you sad? Are you depressed? Maybe you think that something external of you is creating your emotions. Maybe you believe that you are sad because you had a bad day or maybe you believe that you are happy because you had a great day. And this might be true. But who made the decision that you had a good or bad day? You did. You decided if life was good or bad, and adjusted your emotions to respond to your own consideration. You create your own emotions.
Some people are born with everything they want and are still unhappy. And others are born into humble means and are happy. What's the difference? The only real difference is each person's ideas and considerations.
Scientology uses hundreds of processes in order to help a person get a better understanding and a better outlook in life by using his own observations.

6. Scientology Ethics. Ethical people take full responsibility for their actions. Un-ethical people blame others for their actions. ‘wrong doings’ diminish and deteriorate the freedom of the spirit because the need to justify the ‘wrong doing’. So the spirit is enslaved into repeating the ‘wrong doing’ in order to justify the original ‘wrong doing’. The road to freedom lies within taking full responsibility for your personal condition and actions, past, present and future. Scientology provides the tools to help the person able to be fully responsible over his life thus rehabilitating his ability to be good and self determined.
Also Scientologists base their conduct on a non-denominational code of conduct. http://twth.org/eb/?id=16664j

7. Scientology and God. Scientology acknowledges the Supreme Being and promotes the individual search for closeness to God trough religion.

8. Scientology religious status: Religious scholars agree that Scientology is a bona-fide religion. In this link there are 28 religious studies papers about Scientology: http://www.neuereligion.de/ENG/index.html Also see this link: http://www.bonafidescientology.org/Append/09/index.htm

9. Scientology vs Psychiatry. Psychiatry believes that self awareness, feelings, love and faith is merely cellular activity. Basically they think that you are your brain and you are not in charge of your behavior but your cells are. This is a totally materialistic point of view that denies the spirit and God. Psychiatrist is a pseudo science because it is based in principles that are false. All Psychiatrists base their diagnosis on opinion and opinion alone. There aren’t any pathological tests that can determine if a person is insane.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3895596783332855545&q=Psychiatry+is+fraude&hl=enhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8443414209115892468&q=scientology&hl=en
Psychiatry has never proven that any "mental illnesses" (like they call it) has any connection with a physical illness. In the following video two college professors explain that there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbTqjSfMPKA&mode=related&search=
Happiness, exhilaration, depression and psychosis are states of mind, not diseases. All what you have to do to stop being depress is change your state of mind. How you do that? By changing your ideas and considerations. Scientology provides the tools to achieve a better state of mind in accordance with your own point of view.
Note: Scientology doesn't have anything against Psychology or Neurology.

10. Scientology is a force for good in society. Scientologist fights Psychiatric abuses, http://www.cchr.org/ dangerous and harmful drugs, criminality, http://www.criminon.org and drug addiction. http://www.narconon.org. And Scientologist initiated the social reform group "Youth for Human Rights" http://www.youthforhumanrights.org and the movement "Say no to drugs and yes to life". http://www.notodrugs-yestolife.org
Scientologist are some of the more intelligent, able and successful people in this planet; including Jenna Elfman, Kelly Preston, John Travolta, Priscilla Presley, Sofia Milos and Leah Remini. Even Danny Masterson from that’s that '70s Show is a Scientologist.

11. Scientology is the only church that doesn't ask for donations from their parishioners during their Sunday Services. All chapel services are 100% free (marriages, naming ceremonies, ect). Scientology earns its money by delivering courses and auditing. Courses and auditing are optional. You do not need to take courses and auditing to be in Scientology. All you need to do to be a Scientologist is to read the books and apply Scientology to your life (like I do). But if you want auditing there are many alternative and economical ways to achieve this.
a. You can do volunteer work in your local church and get your services for free.
b. You can study to be an auditor and perform all your auditing with a fellow student. This way you can also provide free services to your friends and family.

12. L Ron Hubbard (13 March 1911 – 24 January 1986), was a literary genius that published more than two hundred stories and novels between 1927 and 1941. As a Hollywood screenwriter during this same period he wrote the screen plays for films such as The Mysterious Pilot and The Adventures of Wild Bill Hickok, while his The Secret of Treasure Island stands as one of the most profitable serials of all time. With a regular production of one hundred thousand words a month L Ron Hubbard was the undisputed king of high-speed production writers. In fact he had the ability to produce a whole story in a couple days of work by only using a manual type writer (believe it or not). Amazingly in the 1980ties he did a come back as a Sci-Fi writer by producing the best sellers ‘Battlefield Earth’ and the decaology (ten volume series) Mission Earth. L Ron Hubbard had 21 consecutive international bestsellers in the 1980s and 1990s, a feat unmatched in publishing history.
L Ron Hubbard could have lived a very profitable and idle life as a writer but his chose to use his earning to finance his research into the human spirit and human mind that later became Dianetics and Scientology. L Ron Hubbard produced 5,000 writings and 3,000 tape-recorded lectures on the subject of Dianetics and Scientology. Contrary to popular belief L Ron Hubbard never profited from Dianetics and Scientology but it actually cost him many millions of his personal fortune to finance his research. L Ron Hubbard also developed drug rehabilitation, educational and management programs. Humanity will always be indebted for the contributions of L Ron Hubbard.
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References
http://www.bonafidescientology.org/
http://www.chaplaincare.navy.mil/Scientology.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/scientol.htm
http://www.scientology.org/
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8057_1.html