Problem with the story of Job. Is God evil?

Question

Is Satan not just the messanger of evil? Is Satan not merely teching Job the truth of the evil of God? Or is Satan manipulatng God, if so how all knowing and powerful is God?

Story of Job

8 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and SHUNS EVIL. etc

12 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger."

Now here in lies the problem, God ALLOWS Satan to destroy a mans life but says not to hurt the man himself. BUT then God in Job 2:6 says to Satan, "Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life." So God must not have a master plan.

Also if God is all knowing and all powerful why must God prove his followers faith to Satan? God should know the extent of the mans faith without testing or without justification to Satan.

God giving Job back everything he had and more is no justification.

What God did to Job can best be related to a man beating his wife nearly to death, killing their children, burning their possesions and the woman stays with the man. Not because the man will not beat her again but because he reinbursed all that he took away.

Additional children can never replace children lost so the reinbursement is insufficent.

If you agree with the story of Job do you believe a woman should remain with a man no matter how often he beats her as long as he reinburses her?

If God allows the evil then it makes God evil by association.

IE If you know your child is being molested and do nothing to stop it you are as evil as the molester.

Answer 1

satan / hell was created by christians - so shall they go there, to their hell !

and who would be so stupid to believe what other humans wrote can be the word of God...

Here's some more FACTS about christians:

hell was created by christians - so shall they go there, to their hell!

christians have KILLED more people in the history of humanity than any other group.

christians have persecuted millions of "non-believers" just because they DIDN'T believe in "christianity!

christians are by far the most brain-washed - brain-dead believers in the world today!

Here's the Solution to christianity and religion:

Create a private, personal, direct, divine Relationship with Our Creator and save your Soul from religion.

Only with Our Creator's Love and Peace will we be Truly Free!

Love and Believe in Our Creator;
Love and Believe in Yourself.

"religion is Spiritual fraud"; "religion is the Worse invention of humanity" - Jesus Christ, Buddha and any one else with Spiritual intelligence.

Without God, there is No Love; Without religion, there are No Wars!

Answer 2

Rarely in my life have I had a debate with someone to prove something to myself. If God is telling Satan, "Consider Job. Isn't he awesome?" then I pretty well think God believes that... and God has the confidence to tell Satan he can do whatever he wants. It's *Satan* that needs the proof, not God. And Notice, God turns out to be right about Job, which proves he's at least more all-knowing that Satan, who thought Job would fail.

Your analogy of a man beating his wife isn't fair, either, because it isn't God that caused Job all his problems, it's Satan. God mearly allowed it. I think a better analogy would go like this: it makes God like a husband who saw that his wife was honest and faithful. But the husband had a subordinate that claimed that the only reason the wife was honest and faithful was because she was fat and ugly, and the husband stuck around. So the husband offered to leave on a trip, and let the subordinate test the wife. At first, the husband said to not enter the wife's house, so the subordinate would tell the wife how fat and ugly she was and call her names and tell her that the reason her husband left on the trip was because she was fat and ugly, that he was being unfaithful, and she should just forget him and move on. But she didn't. So the subordinate called the husband and asked for more freedom, because the woman would go home and lie to herself under the covers of her bed and call the husband in the morning and that's all the reason she was faithful. So the husband, to prove to the friend that all was fair, allowed him to come into the wife's house. So he would taunt her even at home, telling her how ugly and useless she was and that she should forget her unfaithful husband. But when the husband returned, he brought with him gifts and fired the subordinate.

Answer 3

A few more important details: -The only reason they chose Job for this bet was because he has done nothing wrong at all. He was a perfect servant of God; the person who least deserved this. He had no flaws to correct, no lessons he needed to be taught. That was the whole point, that he was blameless. -When Job finally sought to ask God if there had perhaps been some mistake, God's answer was essentially: "Listen, I'm the one who made the world, and I can do whatever I feel like. Me big, you puny, got it punk!" God gives a long-winded might-makes-right speech to Job before relenting.

Answer 4

The Book of Job is more about the unwavering love for and faith in God at the most extreme times. No matter what happens in your life if you believe and trust in God he will not abandon you. Peace

What about verses 8, 9, 10, and 11 where Satan tells God basically if you allow all he possesses to be destroyed then he will curse you to your face. That is a pretty important part don't ya think.

Answer 5

1) God has the right to do what He pleases with His creatures. This may seem cruel, but we are His and the "potter has power over the clay"(Romans 9:21).

2) God did not so much as need to prove anything to Satan, I think as much as its proof to us. The story of Job has encouraged many who have suffered - including me. On another level I think God received glory from the faithfulness of Job, and that was to prove something to Satan - that all in all God will be glorified.

3) What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! (Romans 9:14)

Answer 6

The book of Job is essential, in conjunction with Genesis 3:1-6 and other scriptures. It reveals the great issue of the righteousness of God in his exercise of sovereignty, as well as how integrity of God’s earthly servants is involved in the issue.
In the Garden of Eden Satan challenged God's right to rule humans. God had only give humans one law to obey and the consequence for breaking that law... 'don't eat from the tree of knowledge of good and bad or you will die.' Satan essentially told Eve that God was a liar(she wouldn't die if she at the fruit) and that God was holding back something good from her (being like God, knowing right and wrong).

Now fast forward to Job.
Satan challenged the way Jehovah exercises his sovereignty. Is it really possible for God to rule the universe by love? Or, as Satan implied, will selfishness always triumph in the end? Satan claims that Job is only worshipping God because of everything God has given him. God allows Satan to test his theory. Job proves that he worships God because he loves him.
This little glimpse also helps us understand why there are so many bad things that are happening in the world. Satan is behind them. God is allowing it for a time, but it will end.

Answer 7

God's doing a little bragging now. He's got one down there who really loves Him. He's a perfect man. He hates evil. Praying for his children.

The word considered is the word that I'm interested in, though, because it is actually a military term. It is the term that is used of a general who is studying a city before he attacks it in order that he might develop his strategy whereby he can destroy the city. So he's watching when they open the gates, the method of which they open the gates. How do the people come out? What gates are the most easily attacked? And he's developing his whole strategy in order that he might attack and destroy the city. That's the Hebrew word, the background of the word. It's a military term. "Have you been studying Job? Seeking to develop the strategy whereby you might destroy him? Have you considered my servant Job?"

Now God's witness of Job, perfect man and upright. He loves Me; he hates evil. And Satan frighteningly declares, "Yes, I have seen that fellow. I've studied him." And not only had Satan been studying Job, but he had developed a whole philosophy concerning Job. He said, "Job has been blessed of You. Look, he's the wealthiest man in the east. He has everything anybody could ever desire or want. Job is just serving You because You've blessed him so much. Who wouldn't serve You if You blessed them like that? And You've put a hedge around him and I can't get to him." This interests me, the hedge that God puts around His children. "He shall give His angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. To bear thee up, lest at any time you dash your foot against a stone" (Psalm 91:11-12). And God has a hedge around us. Satan is complaining about that hedge. "Let me get at it. Let me at it. Let me take away his wealth and he's going to curse you to your face. Job only serves You because it pays such big dividends." So God said to Satan, "All right, I will let you at him. Only don't touch him. You can touch his possessions; don't touch him."

Answer 8

Probably the place you see a problem, is where God allows Satan to take away all the material posessions that he can, or will.
That is only a problem if you have not been in study, and have learned the true Word of God. Material possessions are: of course, spoken of quite often in the Bible, and not only in the story. Material posessions are only of avail, for the thief that would break in to steal them.
Many think that having material posessions, makes them: look good; are better than others: greed: too much of anything can be bad. It is better to build up your posessions in heaven than on earth.
If you notice : God did protect the man himself.

Answer 9

The understanding I have from Job chapter one is that even Satan is subject to God's authority. He can only afflict us within the limits that God sets for him.
The Epistles state that Satan roams about the earth (walking up and down in the earth)
seeking whom he may devour. Jesus even warned Peter that "Satan desires to sift you." (A euphemism meaning that Satan wants to test Peter's mettle.)

God is not evil, but each of us must go through a test of our faith sooner or later.

Answer 10

Satan was just doing his job.

In ancient Jewish tradition Satan is simply an angel doing the work that God assigned to Satan to do.

The word Satan means challenger. With the idea of Satan challenging us, or tempting if you will. This description sees Satan as the angel who is the embodiment of man's challenges. This idea of Satan works closely with God as an integral part of Gods plan for us. His job is to make choosing good over evil enough of a challenge so that it becomes clear to us that there can be only one meaningful or logical choice.

Contrast this to Christianity, which sees Satan as God's opponent. In Jewish thought, the idea that there exists anything capable of setting itself up as God's opponent would be considered polytheistic or setting up the devil to be an equally powerful polarity to god or a demigod.

Oddly, proof for The Christian satan/devil mythology is supposedly found in the ancient Jewish texts that were borrowed to create the bible. One can’t help but wonder how Christians came up with such a fantastically different interpretation of Gods assistant Satan in their theology.

Other hints about Satan’s role in human relations can be seen if you look at the name Lucifer. It’s meaning in the original tongue translates as Light bearer or light bringer. Essentially the bringer of enlightenment. The temptations of the Satan idea bring all of us eventually into Gods light. Hardly the Evil entity of Christian mythology.

Love and blessings
don

Answer 11

If you mean by God "Source" then you will realize that everything which IS and all that is yet to BE come from Source. There is no 'good and bad' in the realms of Light only in the brains of mankind. All is Perfect but man and that is only because he choses to be less than His essence.