how can jesus be god but god be greater than jesus?

Question

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Answer 1

According rto chrsitianity there are three gods..answer is very simple, but they won't admit that they are tritheist.

Answer 2

Jesus Christ is the creator, not a creature and will always be equal to the Father in this sense. Jn 1:1 says, "and the word was [uncreated] God". However, when incarnated (made flesh on earth), Jesus made a choice to submit to the Father as His head. We call this choice, the subordination (or down-ranking) of Christ to the Father.

Jesus did not give up being God, He merely began to obey the Father as though He were a creature (Jn 12:49-50). This is called "Biblical subordination".

Think of the concept of subordination this way: The President of the U.S. has a role that is functionally greater than my role in society. But, both the President and I share the same position or essence (ontology) on the humanity scale: we are both human beings.

Christ’s functional subordination does not mean He gave up his ontological equality with God the Father or God the Holy Spirit. A subordination in roles is within acceptable Biblical and creedal parameters, but a subordination in POSITION or ESSENCE (the "ontological" aspect) is a heretical (non-Christian) view called subordinationism. One cannot downgrade Christ’s ontological equality with God the Father or God the Holy Spirit and claim to be a Trinitarian. One cannot claim to be a Christian and not believe in the doctrine of the Trinity.

This ontological downgrading of Christ is a mistake made by both Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses. The JWs align with the ancient Arian position of Christ as a "created being" -- differing from Mormons mainly on the point that Jesus was not in some sense eternal. JWs say Jesus was created before the universe, but was not eternal. The JWs rightly recognize Jesus' **functional subordination** to the Father; but for some reason don't understand that Trinitarianism recognizes it as well. Trinitarianism has always allowed for **functional subordination** in the Trinity. But JWs deny Jesus' **ontological equality** with God the Father. Christ is, the JWs say, a completely separate being from the Father and that the Trinity is a construct of Greek philosophy! Unfortunately, this is what the Mormons say, too, although they come to a different conclusion ultimately about the solution.

Answer 3

Your question in intricately woven with the complexity in the authority of the Holy Trinity. I am in no way authorizing it but what would you think has greater value - ice, water or vapour. Depending upon the circumstances, I guess all three would be equally valuable. For instance, if you are really thirsty and let me put you in a desert then water would be more important than ice or vapour (ice would be okay but won't give you a lasting satisfaction). Yet, water, ice and vapour have the same constitutional elements. I do believe that Jesus and Father are one and I also believe that God the Father is greater than God the son, because Jesus said so. The bible endorses it.

Answer 4

The bible does refer to Jesus as a god but not almighty god. In 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 Jesus is here pictured in heaven as King of God's kingdom and once all things are complete he [ Jesus] hands over the kingdom to God and subjects himself to God. Jesus taught by means of illustrations and never used an illustration that suggests he is God or even equal to God.

John 10:30 is highlighting that Jesus and God are "one" in the sense that they are in union. He also said he was "one" with the apostles.

Answer 5

The answer to this question is as amazingly simple as God and Jesus are not the same entity. They are two distinct personages united in purpose. In a rather weak attempt to justify worshiping both Jesus and God the Council of Nicaea made a very ambiguous and not at all supported idea and they formed the trinity. Now instead of worshiping God, a lot of people worship the Trinity.

Answer 6

I think this is because Jesus was considered the son of God. By saying that the father is "greater than I", he may not have meant greater in the general sense of "better" but greater in the sense of being larger, more powerful and omnipotent.

I think Jesus was one with God, yes. But in his humility, he referred to God in this way.

Answer 7

very complicated answer and question. Jesus, Holy Spirit, and God are basicly like a team, squad, three musketeers or however u want to think of it. of the three God represents knowledge and authority. Jesus has equal standing among the three, but basicly represents judgement, which is indeed a "son" of knowledge and authority isnt it? the Holy Spirit represents power and the "right" to do something. i dont have any particular verse for all this, but if u study about each of their characteristics you find this.

Answer 8

Jesus was an offspring of God. Once he was in the flesh, he was working with this fleshly world. God still sat on His throne. Man needed a Savior. Now Jesus STANDS at the right hand of God.

Answer 9

you know, i have always wondered whether or not GOD and Jesus are seperate or not. because i've always heard "the father, son and holy spirit are all one" and that God in the human body was Jesus. but im still not sure because there's versus in the bible that suggest they're seperate. this is one of the most confusing things to me about christianity.

Answer 10

Jesus is His Son. God has given Jesus power, but is still more pwerful. God is a trinity. the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. they're all part of God. but God is like the main thing. just like ur arm and ur body. they're both a part of u. but which is bigger? ur body.

Answer 11

The Godhood of Jesus was established in the Council of Nicae.