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of simple calculation 1*1*1=1 and not 1+1+1=3 . Why Muhammad concept of 3 person in one GOD is 1+1+1=3. For example water can be in a solid(ice).liquid,gas/vapour stage. although it's in diffrent form the conclusion is that it's still water. Why God cannot be coinsist of the Father,Son and Holy Spirit

2007-04-08 19:09:57 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Are you saying my friend that since we were all born as babies, knowing nothing, that we have no future, that we cannot learn, and we cannot aspire to great heights.

Surely the same thing was true of Jesus, we have no benchmark to measure Muhamed against Jesus, or for that matter even to care. The fact that a person cannot read or write does not mean that they can think, or be inspired by God.

2007-04-16 10:22:17 · answer #1 · answered by Boston Bluefish 6 · 0 0

OK now talking from an Islamic point of view :

Mohammad could not read or write. but the the Quran was delivered through him. That is the first miracle of Islam, that it was delivered through this prophet (Mohamad), because he was illiterate, many people challenged the Quran before (i guess some do till this day) but once you do read it, it is plainly understood that this is not something that an illiterate person could make up.

Since he was illiterate how can he make up the Quran??
(that is just a thought to ponder)

Second, the point about the 1+1+1=3

i think to allot of Christians this does not make sense.

God is one, if he has a son then he must have a wife?

God started everything. He was could not have a son and he himself was never born.

He is the absolute and divine.

By the way in Islam Jesus is a prophet that Muslims respect. They believe he was not crucified it was one of his apostles and that God raised him and he will return on judgment day again.

2007-04-09 02:22:01 · answer #2 · answered by Cash 3 · 2 1

Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was surely illiterate, couldn't read or write and that's why a person like him couldn't come up with a book like the Holy Qur'an that was his biggest miracle, now to answer you about the trinity and M.UPSMAN who tried hardly to explain an illogical matter, I want to ask YOU: Why would God Almighty keep telling people for thousands of years through prophets and messengers from our father Adam (PBUH) till Jesus (PBUH) and different Books that He is One and He's the only one who deserves to be worshiped and suddenly Upps!!! He tells you (in the corrupted Bible of course) that he's in fact 1 in 3 or 3 in 1 (I could never understand it) as if he forgot to tell earlier people before Christianity that He had a son????, don't you think ( AND PLEASE THINK WISELY) that if Jesus (PBUH) was really his son or a God or a part of God wouldn't God have told about him from the very beginning???? Do you really think that our father Adam (PBUH) or Abraham (PBUH) knew anything about the trinity???. I'm sure they never heard about it and more sure they never associated with God Almighty other God's. Read the Old testament. The trinity came 300 years after Jesus (PBUH).

2007-04-09 03:29:52 · answer #3 · answered by SouA 3 · 1 0

Well arveen paria arasuk, hope we can pronounce that name, the thing is, its a wonderous thing in itself. An illiterate and humble man gets a revelation. He becames the Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) who spreads the true religion of Islam. Him being illiterate showed to people that he couldn have possibly written the amazing and educated verses of the Holy Qur'an. Thats a very smart and simple thing.
Also, God is consistant. People have changed the Bible and the Torah. That was the act of humans, it was humans inconsistency. This is why the final religion and Prophet (Pbuh) came to mankind. The Qur'an, unlike the books before, is saved from being changed. There will always be the correct and real Quran.

2007-04-09 02:23:00 · answer #4 · answered by Radicular 2 · 2 1

Of course he can. God chooses the weak things of the earth to confound the wise. And from simple and small means does He bring great things to come to pass. Joseph Smith, similarly, was an uneducated person. He was basically an uneducated farm boy with little schooling. I think God chose Joseph to be a prophet because his mind was still pliable...and not hardened into cement like others whose minds were adulterated with the post-biblical creeds of Christendom, like the Trinity of the 3 in one God espoused in the Nicene Creed.

2007-04-09 02:14:41 · answer #5 · answered by Arthurpod 4 · 0 1

Whats with this argument? You need not be insultive.In this same vein,some people cannot understand how an unlettered person gets to bring about a Book like Quran. To Muslims though,this is very easy.He never wrote it,it was a Divine Revelation from God.See?!

2007-04-16 14:11:42 · answer #6 · answered by ajoke77 2 · 0 0

I think you need to understand your own master concept. What is the meaning of trinity? 3 right. So where is one in there.
Whatever 3 in1 you try to stated here is still 3.
Unless the god you mentioned is 1 God with 3 names but your God is 3 name as 1 God.
So its still 3....

For Islam we have only one God, Allah(saw) and Muhammad(pbuh) is his messenger. You see so simple not complicated.

You are trying to justified your own confusion.

2007-04-09 02:26:24 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

I don't find this insulting at all. It is a simple question of reason.
Though, the real issue, as it pertains to Islam, is simple. How do we judge whether God is responsible for it's foundation. The Bible tells us it is in the fruits of their labor. Or, what good have they done? One can simply look up the history of Islam and judge. But I would suggest looking up the history of Catholicism and Protestantism as well.

2007-04-09 02:20:51 · answer #8 · answered by Truth7 4 · 0 0

The Law of Noncontradiction is one of the fundamental laws of logic. You can’t think logically without it. It says that something cannot be true and false at the same time and in the same sense. This is the fundamental law of all rational thought and the doctrine of the trinity does NOT violate it. This can be shown by stating first what the trinity is not. The trinity is not the belief that God is 3 persons and only 1 person at the same time and in the same sense. That would be a contradiction. Rather, it is the belief that there are 3 persons in 1 nature. This may be a mystery but it is not a contradiction. That is, it may go beyond reasons ability to comprehend completely, but it does not go against reasons ability to apprehend consistently.
Further, the trinity is not the belief that there are 3 natures in one nature or 3 essences in one essence. That would be a contradiction. Rather, christians affirm that there are 3 persons in one essence. This is not contradictory because it makes a distinction between person and essence. Or, to put it in terms of the law of non-contradiction, While God is one and many at the same time He is not one and many in the same sense. He is one in the sense of His essence but many(3) in the sense of his persons. So there is no violation of the law of non-contradiction in the doctrine of the trinity.
Muslim scholars and others make a big point of computing the mathematical impossibility of the trinity. After all, does not 1+1+1=3? Yes, 1+1+1 does equal 3. But that is not what christians believe. 1+1+1=3 is tri-theism! Christians are not tri-theists. Christians are trinitarians. Trinitarianism is more like 1x1x1=1. There are 3 persons in the Godhead(1x1x1) but only one God(in essense or nature). So it’s 1x1x1=1 not 1+1+1=3. God is triune not triplex.
It's certainly a mystery. I'll admit I don't understand it. We perceive things by comparing them to other things on earth. Since there is nothing to compare the Trinity to on earth, It is hard for us to understand. If I went out into the sahara desert and found a native there who had never been outside of the sahara and had no modern electronics like a radio or TV or computer and said to him " there's a beautiful water falls in america called the Niagra Falls", He might say "water falls, what's that"? But if I had a giant pitcher of water and I poured it out in front of him and said "that's what it is but only on a much larger scale", then he might understand because I was able to compare it to something else on earth to illustrate it to him. But, like I said, there is nothing on earth to compare the trinity so it is hard to understand. But just because we don't understand something, it doesn't logically follow that it isn't true. It just means we don't understand it.
I don't understand how light could be in wave form and particle form at the same time. That just doesn't seem possible. Yet it is true. I don't understand how time could have physical properties but yet it does(gravity influences time). I can't picture what 6 or 8 dimensions would look like. There's a lot of things I don't understand(mostly in quantum physics) and yet they are true.
You have some paradoxes in the christian religion such as free will versus predestination, the Trinity, the dual nature of Jesus(both God and man) and many others that you don't see in the other religions. If God is an infinite mind and we are finite minds you would expect those paradoxes. There would just be,of necessity, some things that God would have to say "your finite minds just aren't going to understand this right now so you'll just have to wait until you get to eternity to understand it so just trust me on this". The doctrine of the Trinity doesn't cause me to think the bible is not of God. On the contrary, It convinces me that this book is not of men but of God. No man would have ever come up with a concept so philosophically complex as the Trinity. It’s the so-called Holy Books that are completely understandable that makes me think they were written by men and only men and the ultimate ideas did not come from God.
As I said, An infinite mind trying to communicate to a finite mind would have some things that were incomprehensible on this side of death.

2007-04-09 02:35:08 · answer #9 · answered by upsman 5 · 0 1

You are right.
1+1+1=3 not one,
That is whay Muslim Prophets Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad (Peace and blessings of Almighty on all of them)were keep saying God is only one.
God Almighty is unique, no spouse, no son, no daughter, no sharing of responsibilty or authority.

God Almighty does not need sharing of power, or responsibilty.
God Almighty is the creator of Universes, Human, each and every living , nonliving things in/on universes.
God Almighty is above all human requirements and attributes. Who think God Almighty has some human nature those are degrading Almighty.
God Almighty can not be less then God.God Almighty created humans and human can have son, daughter, wife husband, and after completing life cycle will die.

Do you think God Almighty may die? ( May God Forgive me even saying this).

Our vision can not cover The God.

http://www.irf.net
http://www.beconvinced.com
http://www.islamreligion.com

2007-04-09 02:38:44 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 5 1

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