On original sin-?

Question

Why should I have to pay for the mistakes of others?
That was not my sin, and I had no say in it.
Due to the actions of others, I was born into this world and then doomed to die.
Would you say this is fair of God to do? To make me suffer because someone else messed up?

If you say: "you would have sinned anyway" you have nothing to substanciate this.
Besides, if God knew what would happen, why did he go through with it anyway?
So he could make millions of other humans suffer? Sounds fair.

Answer 1

In the minds and hearts of millions of people. God can do whatever the f**k he pleases. If he says you gotta die, someone will carry it out. If God says to wipe out an entire race, they'll be so inclined to do it. If they were told to strip the life from their very own flesh and blood; their children, they'd do it. This is the power of religion. This is the rhetoric by which they base their faith. They'll tell you otherwise, but it's a guise to cloak themselves with to appear good and wholesome. Mind you, it's not something or someone that may speak to them, it's schizophrenia. Ask Pat Roberts, he says God spoke to him and apparently millions will perish this year by the wrath of the lord. Absolute rubbish.

Answer 2

Adam and Eve knew the consequences of their disobedience, that they would die if they ignored the command not to eat from 1 tree of the Garden of Eden. Their disobedience was rightly punished.

However, once they were sinful, they couldn't produce perfect children, it was a physical impossibility.

The whole of mankind at that time turned their back on God, they deserved nothing. We've inherited that from them and are deserving of nothing. Its by God's undeserved kindness that He has provided a way out with his Son paying the ransom.

How can you blame God when He is rectifying the problem which mankind got themselves into?

Answer 3

God would never want us to suffer. He didn't give us original sin. "Why should I have to pay for the mistakes of others?
That was not my sin, and I had no say in it." EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES. Adam and Eve were just the first to sin. Sin did not exist before they ate the fruit of the forbidden tree. And original sin is the sin of all humans, not just Adam and Eve.

Answer 4

1) Original sin was not really a doctrine until St. Augustine I believe

2) Why do you say is this "fair of God to do"? He warned humanity against it but they chose rebellion and self-indulgence.

3) "To make me suffer because someone else messed up". Hmmm if anyone has a right to say that, it is Christ.

Answer 5

Dear Gabe
In order for you to make this claim, you have to admit that Adam and Eve are real historical figures. If this is so, then by the very nature of your claim, you are indeed, guilty of original sin. IE you are blaming someone else for your predicament
If this is NOT the case, and you do not believe Adam and Eve were responsible for original sin, then you have no claim here. You are simply presenting yourself as what you are - selfish.

I'm sorry - this is not an insult - it simply "is".
Blessings :)

Answer 6

Yes, all people inherited sin from Adam and Eve, specifically Adam. Romans 5:12 speaks to this, “Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned.” Romans 5:19a declares further, “For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners…” Adam and Eve were made in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 1:26-27). As a result, all human beings are also in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 9:6). However, we are also in the image and likeness of Adam (Genesis 5:3). When Adam fell into sin, that resulted in every one of his descendants also being “infected” with sin (Psalm 51:5).

The fact that we are born sinners results in the fact that we all sin. Notice the progression in Romans 5:12: Sin entered the world through Adam, death follows sin, death comes to all people, all people sin because they inherit sin from Adam. Thankfully, Jesus Christ is the Savior from sin! “O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 7:24-25a).

Answer 7

You dont have to pay for your sins, Jesus dies for all of our sins, 1 tim 1:15 Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners. We are all sinners its in our nature and we cant avoid it, Romans 6:23 For the wages if sin is death; But the gift of God iseternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. So if you have Jesus in your heart your good to go, John 11:25-26 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection and the life: He that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveith and believeth in me shall never die. If you have Jesus in your heart you will never die becaus you will for ever in hevan, Mark 16:16 but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Answer 8

You don't. Original sin is a lie! It CLEARLY violates the teaching of Ezekiel 18.

When you realize this, you understand that the doctrine of "immaculate conception" and infant baptism are both meaningless. No one is born with the guilt of sin. Since everyone is born innocent, there is no need to figure out some way for Jesus to be born without guilt for Adam's sin.

Ezekiel 18:1 A message came to me from the LORD. He said, 2 “You people have a proverb about the land of Israel. What do you mean by it? It says, “‘The parents eat sour grapes. But the children have a bitter taste in their mouths.’

--> 3 “You will not use that proverb in Israel anymore,” announces the LORD and King. “And that is just as sure as I am alive. 4 Everyone belongs to me. Father and son alike belong to me.
--> People will die because of their own sins.

[ God presents a hypothetical family of alternating good and evil fathers to explain this teaching:]

5 “Suppose a godly man does what is fair and right.
...
9 He follows my rules. He is faithful in keeping my laws. He always does what is right. You can be sure he will live,” announces the LORD and King. 10 “But suppose he has a mean son who harms other people. The son commits murder. Or he does some other things that are wrong.
...14 “But suppose that son has a son of his own. And the son sees all of the sins his father commits. He sees them, but he does not do them.
...17 ... He will not die because of his father’s sin. You can be sure he will live. 18 But his father will die because of his own sin. He got rich by cheating others. He robbed his relatives. He also did what was wrong among his people.

--> 19 “But you still ask, ‘Is the son guilty along with his father?’ No! The son did what was fair and right. He was careful to keep all of my rules. So you can be sure he will live.

Read the whole chapter and you will see I have not lifted the passage out of its context. I just skipped sections that elaborate on what they did or did not do.

…Many respond to this teaching with Romans 5:12, “Sin entered the world because one man sinned. And death came because of sin. Everyone sinned, so death came to all people.” Paul here is teaching that death is the universal CONSEQUENCE of sin and NOT a result of an INDIVIDUAL’S GUILT for sin as “original sin” teaches. Observe the context:

... as Paul goes on:

Romans 5:13 Before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not judged when there is no law. 14 Death ruled from the time of Adam to the time of Moses. Death ruled even over those who did not sin as Adam did. He broke God’s command. But he also became a pattern of the One who was going to come.

Death is NOT a consequence of guilt for "original sin" but sin in general...

Ezekiel 18 is all about GUILT. God explains very clearly that guilt ONLY attaches for a person's OWN SIN. It CANNOT be inherited as the doctrine of "original sin" claims, thus the notion which forms the foundation of the argument is false as are all deductions based on it.

The doctrine can be traced to misunderstandings of Romans 5:12, along with a few Old Testament passages which relate to the CONSEQUENCES of sin in the world and NOT of GUILT FOR sin as gets clarified when we look at the context of the passage instead of lifting it from its context to prove a point.

Answer 9

Original sin is a lie created by the church to make you feel like a bad person so they can sell you their snakeoil wares and control your life.

Answer 10

You will not suffer for their sins but your own.
But you don't have to if you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.