christ"love your enemy""turn the other cheek" clear non-violent philosophy, how can any christian support war?

Question

christ's non-violent philosophy is clear and evident. How can any christian support the illegal invasion, brutal occupation and inhuman slaughter of innocent people that the US(nazis) is doing in Iraq?

Answer 1

Yes this absolutely hypocritical.
If we are Christians and fallowed the teachings of Christ we would be able to negotiate a lot of wars into peaceful times.

I find it nauseating when Bush uses God as an addendum for his wars. Bush represents the fundamentalists of the far right. They do battle with the righting of the Bible to promote war in Iraq and other places including such as Afghanistan. I feel that the Bible is being abused by any people that want to war on any thing. They find and quote that it is necessary to go to war anytime your president darn well feels like it. You can not promote war and be a Christian at the same time. Also you are told that God is on your side - whether He is supposed to help one Christian team over another . One waring faction over the other. As we are understanding the speeches by Jesus - there is nothing Christ spoke to be understood as going to war .- going to war is very much forbidden by Christ's doctrine. You can't have it both ways. Your creating a lot more sins than any Atheist I've met.
The blood is on your hands now. Are you willing to ignore the
teachings of Christ and stray from your church because of your blind faith of your president Bush and his actions - - some of which are crimes against humanity.

jake c
Yes Jesus said to help your neighbour. I really didn't believe that in such a way that it seems that by killing many thousands you are doing the work with authorization by Jesus's to help your neighbour. That's just crazy.
mckenziecalhoun --
So - I'm supposed to follow your lead on that with Christ's favour that I could take up an ideology that I can take a gun and shoot people. I can go to war with little thought of its consequences or needs. There is also the thought that :
turn the other cheek -
God is the God of peace (I Thes 5.23) also ( Heb. 13.20)
Peace be with you (Joseph 20.19 , 21.19, 21, 26)
Christ sent out His deciples to proclaim peace (Luke 10.5 - 6)
And so on.

And where in the Bible does it say (innocent until proven guilty) - If this is true there would be no arrests.and, alleged, criminals would own our streets. I will judge as you find necessary to do here.




consequences

Answer 2

We are called to fight evil, we even have to fight our very nature which is evil.
Example : Like someone "judging" and calling the US "nazi's".
Christ is non violent "except" when the Father has been blastphemed and what does that but evil ?

Christ Himself "with a whip" and turning over tables in front of the tabernacle was at least "very upset" against evil that He took action and therefore set an example.

We are to turn the other cheek as a matter of tolerance, peace and love as our general disposition, if we error let it be on the side of right, not to be cowards and helpless against God's enemies. If that was the case all Christians would have been destroyed by their enemies long ago, so would His chosen, the Jews.

It's ok to judge others with "righteous" judgement" when you know something is undeniably evil and against Gods nature.

The only thing Christ hates is evil.

Evil disguises itself as light, so men must have Godly discernment over matters, sometimes they are deceived.

Who built courageous armies and helped them " if " they relied upon Him ? David, etc. ? "Christ Himself" did battle with the enemy, He has "always" been here from the very beginning" ....read the bible "then ask "how could a Christian"
Read the old testament as the new testament, people read the old testament and think "Christ" wasn't in it, when it tells us from the very beginning He was. All things were created through Him. It's all one book God gave us to learn of His ways, the plan of His salvation.

Man sins, man is deceived, it will be this way, man wars for good but may be deceived by false light, God says so, He said there would be wars and rumors of wars right to the end, so I pray we are fighting for God and not being deceived.

I'm sure the president is also.

Answer 3

1) Christ's followers had swords to defend themselves. You have, in your ignorance of Christian history, tried to turn their values against them. They are not pacifists. His non-violent philosophy is an invention of those who are anti-war, and not a great credit to their literary experience (the Bible being a major factor in Western development and and essential read, religious or not).
2) You have embraced the idea of "guilty until proved innocent". It is NOT your right to determine guilt or innocent, illegal or legal, until proved in a court of law.
3) Brutal occupation was what Saddam was doing to his own people. His attempted assassination of one of our Presidents alone was reason for invasion, let alone the dozen other reasons that have been discussed. Only the politically naive or actively seditious try to pretend that there was only one or two reasons for this action.
4) Inhuman slaughter of innocent people was what Islamic dictators and terrorists have done for years. You clearly support this and would prefer Saddam was still in power? You'd prefer our troops stand still and get shot? You prefer we were never there and they be allowed to continue the rape rooms, the bragging that they have WMDs and are fooling the U.N., etc.? What is your alternative?

You don't hold Christian values. What do you think it looks like when you try to manipulate Christians by values they don't truly hold into behaving in a way that result in even more horror to the people of Iraq?

What nonsense.

What's worse is that you compare the U.S. to Nazis with the same ignorant comparison that every socialist and seditious person in the U.S. seems to think is cool.

Who told you that America hating was cool? It's seditious. You have joined our enemies in the midst of WW-III.

You have chosen sides and many years from now you will remember what side you stood on.

So will I.

We will face you. You have free speech.

So do we.

Your behavior is contemptible.

Answer 4

well as a christian I know that the turn the other cheek thing is a "b attitude" which means Blessed are the meek...Blessed are the peace makers....Blessed....we recieve blessings for turning the other cheek...we are n't commanded to take it up the corn hole......but should we tollerate mistreatment?? even basphemous words( some one dissng our religon)or murder ? we are blessed when we turn the other cheek and the Lord holds the transgressor culpable....... now there are many demonstrations of defending ones family, rights, land, and religion. David was angered by the verbal attacks and name calling even basphemous words coming from a giant enemy(they were at war). David was so mad....for this man who represented evil sanding with seemingly impunity spreading fear and evil, justifiably put a rock in that mans head and then cut it off with his this mans own sword. .....we go to war to put down despot nations even to the point of geniside....what do you think the last crusade was? The arabs were declairing holy war and we needed to send them to their maker or as their battle cry said Join (and become a slave) or die! The jews in the bible were promiced a land of inheratance and the went in and destroyed nations of evil in order to have a home land in wich they could worship. As a matter of fact jews and christians are a people who do not take kindly to what the arabs(alqada) and others are now doing.....slavery and forced religon is not an option for those of us who really believe in a just God. so to answer your queston it is better that evil dies and is swept from the earth than have it bring slavery upon us. the answer is...death those who oppose freedom....... Liberty or Death!

Answer 5

It is not illegal, or brutal (except to the insurgents and terrorists that deserve extinction) and we are not slaughtering innocent people like the Nazi's did.

Although the Bible commands us not to kill (Exodus 20:13), it also gives at least three exceptions to this command, or you might say three situations where the taking of another's life is not killing in the biblical sense.

1. A murderer is to have his life taken. God told Noah, "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man" (Genesis 9:6). Capital punishment is God's plan in this case.

2. An exception is made for self-protection. Exodus 22:2 states, "If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him." If you took a life to protect your own life or the lives of others, God accepts that as a proper cause.

3. War is the final exception. About the same time that God was giving the commandment to not kill, He was also numbering "all that are able to go forth to war in Israel" (Numbers 1:3). The Bible allows for the killing of enemy soldiers in war. Even Jesus spoke of going to war as a
natural condition on this earth (Luke 14:31). Paul speaks of a ruler as "a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil" (Romans 13:4). This would include going to war.

Answer 6

Christians supported the Crusades, they promote antisemitism, blood is on their hands and in their souls. All religions are bad to the core. Ignorance is the reason for even wanting religion, just look at Christians they believe a man is God and they follow the teachings of a Jew but hate Jewish people. Look at the KKK how many members believe in Christian teachings yet killed black people. How could any black man follow the teachings of any religion?

Answer 7

And when did you start being a Cristian? Haven't you ever heard of the Christians fighting in wars since Christ was a corporal? Guess you never heard of the crusades? Religious zealots have been fighting forever, because THEY believe that ONLY their religion is important enough to fight for. Unfortunately, all religions seem to have that impression that theirs is the only TRUE religion.

Answer 8

Christ's non violent philosophy wasn't evident as he was nailed to a cross, then stabbed till he was dead. Nor was it present when millions of Crusaders died in his name, or when the Huegenots performed some 'Christian cleansing' in France.

Neither was it when the Moors 'spread Islam' into Spain with the violent acts of the Moors. Or when 3000 innocent Americans died in the name of Allah.....because some of them wore a star of david around their neck and never have even contemplated going to the middle east.

Christianity is the epitome of hypocrisy, so is Islam. Take your religious nonsense to the religion and spirituality section please.

Answer 9

As a Christian it is not our place to judge... If you're in the military you follow orders and God will judge in the end. Even if you single handedly killed 50 enemy combatants and the justification for the war is false, you're still okay.

Just let God do the judging here.

Answer 10

If we all listened to whatever prophet, religion, etc we thought was right, and nothing else hindered us, then we would all probably be happy people. The situation is, on a government level, and for whatever reason........well, who really knows.