Did Christ really suffer THAT much?

Question

I mean, there are LOTS of people in history who have died for a lot less. Christ was literally TOLD by God that he had to die to save all of humanity. Who wouldn't do that? Firefighters die risking their lives to save one person, without the benefit of a personal conversation with God to assure them.

Anyone else as unimpressed with Jesus' suffering as I am?

You should be nice to me. If God specifically tells me that I should suffer to save your life, I would do it. Even though you are clearly a total dorkenheimer loser. I'm nice like Jesus was.

Yeah, I clearly don't believe this crank, either. But, if this is real - it's remarkably unimpressive. I'll continue to model my life after real people who changed humanity for the better. They are everywhere.

pyt, you are clearly stoopid as hell. As I said, I WOULD DO IT, but I wasn't blessed with God as my Dad, so you can see I'm a bit skeptical.

PS - most of you sound like huge *******. Thorns? Nailing to a cross? Pshaw - Jews were experimented on, starved for years and gassed. People throughout history have been executed for crimes they didn't commit - worship them.

Miriam musn't be a good christian, then. You wouldn't die if God asked you to in order to save us all? More church for you, you selfish heathen!!

I've studied the Bible. I've also studied Mother Goose. Niether is worthy of my additional attention, but thanks, munch.

I am impressed by agnostics and atheists who dedicate their lives to curing drug addicts, helping the homeless, and trying to heal the planet. They do this only out of the goodness of their hearts. Jesus can't really claim that.

Answer 1

Just what do you know. Yes he did. I am unimpressed by you.

Answer 2

Very soon now you will become impressed. This Nation is now entering into a recession which will become a full blown depression. That man that you are unimpressed with said that 1/3 of the people in this nation will die from starvation/ and the diseases that follow starvation durning the depression. Right after that little afair that same man said that the Germans are comming here and kill another 1/3 of our peoples. I'm sorry that you have never studied the bible, and that Jesus does not impress you. VERY SOON all this will come upon us. It has alread begun in the form of a recession.

Answer 3

Dear ms_cokto,

I do not know where you have gotten your information, but it is not correct.

First, the physical trauma that Jesus endured was similar to many others that had been crucified by the Romans. But what you and I could not see with our eyes is the real deal. Jesus endured the equivalent of spending an eternity in hell to pay for the sins of His people. In the space of tiem between the Garden of Gethsemanae and when He said "It is finsished", Jesus paid the sin debt for all those whom He had chosen to save before the foundation of the earth (Ephesians 1:3-5),

Our peanut brains cannot conceive of the torment and suffering that Jesus endured to save a bunch of rebellious sinners. He did not come to save the world, only His elect. The Bible tells us that hell (the lake of fire) will be heavily populated-most of mankind.

To me, Jesus is an awesome God! None of us deserves to go to heaven yet the Lord in His matchless grace determined to save some of these rebels and make them His children. That is an unmatchable work.

Answer 4

Well, I'd go through the same thing for the benefits he supposedly received in a heartbeat, gain omniscience, omnipotence, and omnipresence and keep a large portion of the human race from spending an eternity suffering compared to your couple of days?...

Honestly, I'd like to punch anyone who would turn that down in the face. But yeah, was someone released from Guantanimo (not charged as he was apparently innocent) not long ago that literally went through years of torture... But Jesus gets all this attention.

Really, were I a third of a completely divine being, I'd be most pissed that I had to spend thirty-something years wasting my time in a human body.

Answer 5

Jesus' physical pain was far greater than anything most of us will ever be called upon to endure; crucifixion was widely seen as the cruelest method of execution. And His emotional and mental suffering must have been just as intense. The Bible says, "He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering" (Isaiah 53:3).

But far greater than either of these was Christ's spiritual suffering because all the sins of the world were placed on Him, and He endured the punishment and Hell we deserve. He was the divine Son of God, and from all eternity He had known nothing but unbroken fellowship with His Father. But on the cross that fellowship was broken. No wonder He cried out, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" (Mark 15:34).

Don't ever take lightly what it cost Jesus Christ to purchase your salvation. His physical and emotional sufferings were only indications of a far deeper suffering—the suffering of His soul for you and me.

Why did He do it? He did it for one reason: because He loves us. We don't deserve it, but He loves us anyway. The Bible says, "This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins" (1 John 4:10). Have you responded to His love by giving your life to Him?

Answer 6

Oh the suffering part would certainly have sucked.

However let's put this in perspective. If Jesus KNEW that he wouldn't stay dead but would rise again after three days and be made out later to be some sort of God then the suffering he went though wouldn't have been all that bad!

I'd say it's time we stop going oh look what he dfid for humanity. He didn't do anything! This God could do anything he wanted because well he's God (That's the Christian arguement) so why did he need any of it?

Besides to know exactly how you are to die, when you are to die and that you'll only be dead for three days. WOW BIG SACRIFICE!

Answer 7

Well, yes, He suffered THAT much.

1. Left the glory of heaven and choose to live in this dung heap for 33.5 years.

2. Crucified by the very people He came to save.

3. Had the power to totally destroy His tormentors in a fraction of a second but chose not to use that power (which of the other persons you mentioned had that power?).

4. He gave up one aspect of Divinity (omnipresence) forever.

And YOU are unimpressed? I wonder what it would take to impress you.

Answer 8

Ok, they stuck a crown of thorns in His head, after they beat him to a bloody pulp. They nailed Him to a cross and He slowly suffocated to death. Nope, He didn't suffer at all, He had a blast on that cross.

How do you know firefighters don't have a personal conversation with God? Jesus died on the cross to save us from Hell. I mean come on, sweetie, that took a whole lot of love. Even though Jesus knew He would be resurrected, it still hurt Him to die. I think you need to get your heart right with God or you will be in big trouble one day.


Edit: Nice people don't call others names and God wouldn't tell you anything since you don't appreciate Jesus' death.
Happy Easter

Edit: I'm guessing you're gonna be impressed with Jesus when you die and He says for you to depart from Him that He never knew you. Only then, its gonna be too late for you.

Answer 9

He suffered plenty by the beatings and whippings and crucifixtion but what made Him suffer most was taking on all our filthy ,perverted,awful sins on His sinless self.
Don't forget He volunterred to leave Glory to take on a tent of human flesh, a tent that although glorified now ,He is still stuck in for eternity because He loved us that much.

Answer 10

Yes, the one thing that separates Christ's death from that of every other single human being that has ever died for the sake of humanity is the fact that God's wrath was also placed upon Him during the time of the crucifixion.
The way atonement works is that the price for sin is eternal damnation and Christ suffered more than any other human being has or ever will since not only did he physically die but He also suffered eternal damnation for every single sin of those people whom He has chosen to save. He paid the price for sin in order to redeem mankind and that redemption was very very costly.

Answer 11

Jesus suffered more than any person in history. Lot's more than any of the other 70,000 Jews that were crucified by the Romans. And that fact that he came back to life and has been living in heaven for the past 2,000 years doesn't change that one bit.