Will I still be damned if I was never chosen by God?

Question

If I was, wouldn't that make him a hypocrite to himself?

Um, excuse me. But the bible even says that God chooses those who believe in him:

6 For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.
7 The LORD did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples.
Deuteronomy 7:6-7.

14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15For he says to Moses,
"I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."[f] 16It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy. 17For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."[g] 18Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
Romans 9:14-18.

Alex, Romans is in the New Testament.

Answer 1

Actually there are Christians that believe this. It's called predestination. It says that only the elect get into heaven and only God chooses who is elect. You can't do anything about it. Look up Calvinism.

Interestingly many many denominations are Calvinist but they don't really preach this part of their theology anymore today. Cowardly church leaders don't teach the issues anymore. They only preach about what people want to hear. If they teach that God decides who is saved and free will is non-existent, then they won't keep their congregation now will they?

Naturally, I'm not a Calvinist.

EDIT:
The Bible's references to God choosing are referring to the Jews. The Jews are God's people. But just because someone wasn't and isn't Jewish doesn't mean he can't get into heaven.

Those verses you are quoting are from the old testament. Paul in Romans is quoting Moses. We are under a new covenant with God now. Jesus died on the cross so we might live. We have one act to do to receive it, accept the gift. Reach out and let Jesus put the gift in our hands.

EDIT AGAIN:
Yes, Romans is in the new testament, but Paul is quoting a verse that is in the old testament.

Answer 2

Blood: No you are not written off ("damned") . God will draw you to Himself (John, 6th chapter, verse 44) when He decides too. Every human ever, born, will both have their time and turn for a relationship with Him. Some will have that opportunity now, in this life, and the rest later, at the return of Christ to this earth. God is in the saving business and that He will offer to everyone - no exceptions ! Read the book of Revelation, particularly, Chapter 20 !

Answer 3

You choose Him, not the other way around. He knows who's going to come and who isn't, He's already watched the movie play out. You've already made the choice you are going to make, you just dont understand why, but it WAS your choice to make. You made it of your own free will, it was never set in stone even when He saw it happen before hand, you were not forced one way or the other. God knows what is going to happen because He can see things in fast forward and slow motion. If He wants to know what's going to happen, he just fast forwards, watches, then rewinds and does what He wants to do. He's not going to mess with your free will as long as you are alive on earth.

You have the option to choose Him, or not. Don't try to put the blame on Him because you want the cake and to eat it too. You honestly think after scoffing at Him that you would get into the place He has made for those who WANT to be with Him? Would you let yourself in if you were God after that?

Answer 4

The Lord never condemns anyone eternally.

I read recently that Pope Benedict is unhappy that the concept of eternal damnation in the fires of hell is gradually diminishing in the lives of people of the modern era.
I would submit that the idea of a merciful and all loving Lord precludes the idea of an eternal damnation and eternally committing us, His "children", who He loves dearly, to such a fate.

It is simply illogical and contradictory to postulate that we as human beings can exercise tolerance and discretion and our original source, the Lord, cannot. Does the doctrine espoused by the Catholic church exclude God from making discreet judgements, from exercising compassion and forgiveness? I think not. It is a case of projecting impersonal concepts on the Supreme. They argue that God is omnipotent, yet they project their mundane limitations onto Him. He is not a materially limited and malicious being. Lord Krishna is the absolute Supreme being, and He is not subject to any of our limitations, mental speculations or any other mundane constraint.

Frankly, one of the primary reasons I abandoned catholicism in my search for a spiritual path which made logical sense was the doctrine of eternal damnation. I embraced Krishna consciousness and the Bhagavad Gita, which explained many fundamental questions with logic and detail.

Answer 5

Damnation is most likely a test that Jesus gave and meant for his followers. In other words, Jesus said others would be damned because if he didn't, there wouldn't be much sense in choosing to follow him. If following him doesnt have rewards (and if not following him doesn't have consequences) then his words are simply 'nice ideas'.

Most likely, true 'damnation' for a Christian wouldn't be lakes of fire or demons with pitchforks (although those would be quite painful in and of themselves.) It would be the knowledge that they 'failed' to live up to the standards that Jesus expected of them. In other words, lakes of fire can be quite attractive if it means not facing up to the fact that one wasn't as kind or humble or forgiving as one was expected to be.

Damnataion, and the sort of 'hell' to which it belongs, is simply a way for a fallen Christian to 'expiate' the guilt they feel at failing to live up to the standards of Christ to which they pledged themselves. The power of damnation is thus personal, not impersonal and/or subjective.

In other words, God doesn't judge you by the book you don't follow, God judges you by the book that you do. If you are a Buddhist, Buddha does your 'soul evaluation'. If you are a hindu, Vishnu/Shiva; if you are a Muslim, Mohammed bears witness to your life.

God is only a 'hypocrite' in so much as each of us are hypocrites.

Answer 6

Will you get across a river without a bridge? God gave us a way to get to Heaven. Assume someone doesn't know how to swim. They are standing on the lower side of a river. There is a bridge that leads to higher ground, and it is plain to see that the river is going to flood the lower side and drown the person if they do not get to the other side... the maker of the bridge chose to let anyone onto higher ground... he didn't pick out certain people, and expect the rest to drown. What kind of a jerk would do that? God gave us a bridge across the river. Its up to us to use it, though.

Answer 7

Christ died for all of us..so that we might never have to suffer the second death..of being seperated forever from God..Jesus took all of our sins upon Himself so that we might be granted repentance and forgiveneness and have life more abundantly. The key here is that He died for ALL..he wants EVERYONE to grow to love Him and follow Him...it is our choice if we do not accept that free gift..so therefore He would not be a hypocrite. You were chosen, as all of us were, to have available to you that free gift that Jesus gave by dying on the cross for you..because He loves you...if you do not choose Him..then if you do not end up in heaven is your choice..not Gods.

Answer 8

There is no reason to sit around worrying about predestination. If you are thinking about this then you should call on God and ask Him to save you.
If you are one who God has chosen then you will call on His name to be saved. Ask Jesus to save you, forgive you of your sins, that you believe He is God and you want Him to save you. You can do this anytime you want, day or night, right now or later, before you die.
There is absolutely no reason for you to be damned so why not call on Him and ask to be freed from this future?

Answer 9

No. It would mean that He didn't want you in the first place.

I wonder about you asking this question. Why would you care if you didn't feel something, remorse perhaps? That's a good sign you know. That would mean that you are experiencing the longing that Christians feel when repentance comes. We are sorry, and we want to turn to Him. We want His help out of our condition.

Is that why you asked?

Answer 10

The jurys still out buddy. Maybe God will pick you for the kickball team , maybe he wont. I guess though if there is a God . I suppose he could do that