no offense, what was so impressive about what Jesus did?

Question

i am honestly not trying to start anything, i genuinely want to know: Wasn't he pretty much sure that he would end up in heaven at God's right hand or whatever? I mean it would suck big time, but if God talked to me and I was sure that my torture and death would potentially save every human being ever, i could probably suck it up. Especially if i knew that someday i'd get to come back and rule a perfect world. Our troops risk torture and death every day, maybe we should worship them. I just think Jesus' supernatural side takes away from his sacrifice a little. agree? or am i a heretic for thinking that?

i can honestly say that none of you convinced me of anything. What the hell does "took on the sins of the world" actually mean? God turned away from him - so he felt like most people on earth always do? This is why you people don't make sense to me.

Answer 1

He fulfilled literally hundreds of Old Testament prophecies. He taught mankind things unheard of since the foundation of the world. He healed the sick, cleansed lepers, opened the eyes of one born blind from birth, opened deaf ears, fed 5000 men with 5 loaves and two fish, walked on water, stilled the storm with a command, cast out demons, raised a man who had been dead for four days, confounded all His enemies, foretold His own death, died without offering resistance, although He demonstrated He could have walked away from it all, was raised from the dead, and has influenced the lives of more people than any other human being that has ever lived.
That's just a brief summary. I don't know about you, but I'm impressed.
Oh, did I mention that He personally saved me and caused me to be born again, transforming my nature in an instant? And I assure you, I am not the only one.

Answer 2

I think this is a valid question. Shame on the closed minded people for berating you for asking a question that’s probably been bothering you. The fact is that Jesus did die a death that many people died. His wasn’t any more serious than many people. And in fact it could be said that some people’s deaths were worse. I wouldn’t want to be burned at the stake. And there are worse but I won’t go into them for the innocent ears’ sake. What was truly amazing was Jesus’ sinned only once. He did not hate those that persecuted him. He loved them and prayed that God would forgive them. I don’t mean to downplay the sacrifice and risk our troops make for us, but I hardly believe that their sacrifice compares to Jesus’. He gave UP the power and supernaturalness about himself to die. And that’s what his life was about. His supernatural side wasn’t about his life, it was about his death. That’s what was amazing, that he could give up being God for our sake. God is humble. Did you ever think about that? If you were God, would YOU be humble? Probably not. But he is. Just look at Jesus.

I like your question. I have a similar one myself. You know, I actually believe that Jesus HAD to have inferior genetics. Hope THAT isn’t blasphemy. How else would God know what it was like to be human? I mean come on! Remember a few years ago at the Olympics one country had some handicapped or retarded or something person enter a swimming competition. Boy did he lose the race but he finished it at least and he got more cheers than anyone. An athlete getting into the Olympics is one thing, but a handicapped person??? Now THAT is something else! THAT is an achievement. Now I’m not saying that Jesus was handicapped. I just think that if I were God, and I wanted to know what it was like to be human, I wouldn’t want the extra help that good genes gave me. In fact, I fear the idea of us cloning Jesus. Imagine Jesus’ body without God’s soul.

Answer 3

Good question. As bad as the crucifixion and death were, that was not the worst part by far. If you are to believe the biblical account, Christ took on the sin of the world and also the full wrath of God for all sin. And then he was separated from God. Somehow Christ in his infinite self paid the full debt of eternal damnation of all the redeemed. There is no record of Jesus flinching at the nails or the whip. But the thing he dreaded in the garden was drinking the cup of the Father's wrath. He who knew no sin became sin. That God the Son who hates sin, would drink into himself oceans of the vilest filth imaginable, so that God could focus and unleash the entirety of infinite Divine retribution on Christ.. It is a mystery that we probably never will comprehend. And there the Son of God, the King of Heaven, the Lord of Love, hung on a cross, reviled by demon spirits, rejected by God and man. All the sin of man, all the wrath of God coursing through his soul and spirit, like the spittle of the priests coursing down his debearded face. And yet today after 2000 years, some men and demons still revile him. But God has highly exalted him and given him a name above all other names.

Jesus' prayers were not ignored. They were answered. He did not pray to have the cross removed. Jesus could have called 12 legions of angels at any time and avoided the cross- which would have sealed the doom of planet earth. His prayer was for the Father's will to be done in the matter. He prayed IF there was any other way, nevertheless, thy will be done.

Answer 4

Not a heretic but Jesus also took on the sins of the world, past, present, and future, so much so that God the Father couldn't even look at Him.....That separation was torture for Him more than anything man could do to Him...I think our troops are wonderful but even one death can't pay the price Jesus did for my sins. That's what is so special....He is perfect and therefore the only suitable sacrifice for our sins.

Answer 5

I think that's a great question. I was just pondering this morning whether He was able to live a sinless life (while in a human body) because He is also God, or was it an example of what could be done by someone who had first hand knowledge of God and His heaven? I didn't resolve it.

But I guess it was a pretty big thing to BE totally sinless (sin being the one thing God would not be near, or have anything to do with), and agree to take onto Himself ALL the sin that ever was, is or will be - and have His Dad turn His back on Him. That was pretty generous.

Answer 6

you have to remember that it was because of Jesus' supernatural side that made it ever more painful for him. Jesus had never before been separated from God the father and Spirit, but when he was on the cross Jesus had to take upon him all the sins of the world. and because sin is against God and where sin lies God can not touch, the father had to turn his head. the absence of God the father is the most painful experience.

also you have to try and imagine what it looked like from Jesus' eyes while on the cross. ya you had the pain and suffering and all the blame he took on, but the spiritual realm must had been crazy! as Jesus died, if you could have seen the spiritual realm it would have turly been the worst experience imaginable. it would be looking straight into hell. and for that Jesus was spiritually in pain as well and physically. yet he still did it. with you on his mind. he knew that one day you would be born. and he already knew exactly how many hairs you have on your head at this moment. he knew you would ask this question. and he knew i would shoot an answer to you. and all that went through his mind while on the cross. all that pain, and all he could think about is you, and how much he loves you.

if someone you knew, or even someone you didnt know would die for you (and im not talking about just taking a quick bullet to the head. think a long, slow, painful, and shameful death) so that you wouldnt have to go through that kind of pain, you would care about them. oh, you would do more than just care about them! you would LOVE them for it. would you not? think about it, thats exactly what he did for you, and more. all because you were on his mind. Love.

blessings my friend. i hope you find the love

Answer 7

Jesus was able to withstand His torture and horrific death for the exact reason that you stated; He knew that His death/our forgiveness was His calling. He did it because of the love He has for us, not because of any "reward"; remember; God and Jesus are one in the same; Jesus knew that He would die for us even before He came to earth. Our troops are risking their lives to prevent terrorism, which should be given the highest honor! They are not ensuring a place in Heaven for us by fighting, though, so of course they should not be worshiped as God. You are NOT a heretic; you just have a questioning mind...which is a wonderful thing. Always question everything! God's Word will always be proven correct, so there is no worry in testing it! Good luck with all your spiritual searching!

Answer 8

Absolutely NOT.
Let me tell you how people worshiped God in the old testament. Okay they had an inner/outer court...you can read this in the scriptures....Anyway...they sacraficed an unblemished animal to shed it's blood for their sins..God required this from the people...It had to be done in just exactly what was acceptable to God. While the priest was doing the ministrations of this task he had a rope tied to an ankle because if he did something wrong during this task he was a dead man...and no one would dare go into the alter area because they would also die...so they would pull on the rope to get the man out of there....Jesus was the replacement of this procedure.
You need to go to someone who can thoroughly explain what Jesus actually went through for us.
He sweat drops of blood in anticipating what was being asked of him., He endured his Father turning his face away from him on the cross....talk about being alone. God had to turn his face away even if it was but a moment, Jesus took the sins of the whole world. (can you think of anything that would shame your parent's and have them turn away from you) and has anyone ever described to you what they did to him, the scourging, putting a crown of thorns on his head,,,,embedded into his skull,
and let's talk about the beating....the instrument used was designed to "pull" the flesh from his back...he was bared to the bone...his spine exposed.....
Jesus knew this outcome when God was running his fingers over the earth creating canyons, mountains, the stars in the sky and the planets in orbit. (Read, John 1:1-3)
Jesus used his "supernatural" side to heal the sick, help the blind to see, cured lepers...raised the dead, and so on...
He did none of those things for himself...
That's why he is called the sacrificial lamb of God. He lived a human life here and was tempted as any man would have been tempted but resisted sin in ALL it's forms.
He was innocent and pure and sent by God to do HIS will.
He was alone on that cross with his blood shed for the world.
While Jesus was here he lived....he walked everywhere he went,,,,he could've "pop" around like a "ghost" but he did not.
After dying on the cross, he went to hell for you too...well you'll just have to keep working on this mystery.

Answer 9

I don't think Jesus did anything all that impressive in his life. The claims that went out after he lived were hyped up - but during his life, no.

All that he preached can be found in the OT. There was nothing new there. He wasn't even the first to claim he was the long awaited Messiah - nor the first to be executed by the Romans because of this claim.

Honestly - I don't think he did anything all that great outside of healing people. All the claims about him came long after his death. He didn't even fulfill the true Messianic prophecies - although Christians claim that this will be in the second coming.

Christians would argue that Jesus gave them a chance at salvation and forgiveness- but that already existed in the Jewish religion.

Answer 10

Our troops fight for our basic freedoms. They are not taking the sins of the world away for reconciliation between man and God. His supernatural side is what made His sacrifice so awesome. An eternal God that dies in the flesh so that all men may have eternal life.
If you think that this act was not impressive, then you are truly lost.