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14. The Bible says that Jesus is subordinate to God
1 Corinthians 11:3 “Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.”
1 Corinthians 15:28 “When he has done this, then the son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.”
Since Jesus was subordinate to God, he was not God.
15. Bible says that Jesus grew in wisdom & learning, but God is All Wise & does not (need to) learn
Jesus grew in wisdom, but God is all wise:
Psalms 147:5 “Great is our Lord and abundant in strength; His understanding is infinite.”
Luke 2:52: “And Jesus increased in wisdom.”
God does not need to learn, but Jesus learned.
Heb. 5:8 “Although he was a son, he learned obedience…”
2007-04-05 19:55:35 · 21 answers · asked by anno 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
16. Bible says that Jesus had limited knowledge, but god’s knowledge is infinite
Mark 13:32 “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the son, but only the Father.”
Since Jesus, may God praise him, did not know, he was not all-knowing, and therefore, he cannot be the God whose knowledge is all-encompassing.
17. Bible says that Jesus was tempted, but God cannot be tempted
Heb. 4:15 “tempted in every way—just as we are”
James 1:13 “for God cannot be tempted by evil”
Since God can not be tempted, but Jesus was, therefore, Jesus was not God.
2007-04-05 19:55:57 · update #1
18. Bible says that Jesus’ teachings were from God, NOT Jesus himself
John 7:16 “So Jesus answered them and said, "My teaching is not mine, but His who sent me.”
Jesus could not have said this if he were God because the doctrine would have been his.
19. Bible says that Jesus died, but God cannot die
The Bible teaches that Jesus died. God cannot die. Romans 1:23 and other verses say that God is immortal. Immortal means, “not subject to death.” This term applies only to God.
20. Bible says that Jesus lived because of God
John 6:57 “I live because of the Father.”
Jesus cannot be God because he depended on God for his own existence.
2007-04-05 19:56:21 · update #2
21. Bible says that Jesus’ powers were given to him
Matt 28:18 “All power is given unto me.”
God is all-powerful, no one gives God His powers, otherwise He would not be God because He would be weak. Therefore, Jesus could not be God.
22. Bible says that Jesus was taught & commanded by God
John 8:28 “As my Father hath taught me, I speak these things,”
John 12:49 “The Father, who sent me, he gave me a commandment.”
John 15:10 “I have kept my Father’s commandments.”
No one can teach God, otherwise God cannot be All-Knowing and would owe His teacher. Since Jesus was taught and commanded by God, Jesus cannot be God himself. The teacher and the student, the commander and the commanded are not one.
2007-04-05 19:56:45 · update #3
23. Bible says that God made Jesus “Lord”
Acts 2:36 “God has made this Jesus... both Lord and Christ.”
“Lord” is used in many ways in the Bible, and others beside God and Jesus are called “Lord.” For example:
1) property owners (Matt. 20:8)
2) heads of households (Mk 13:35)
3) slave owners (Matt. 10:24)
4) husbands (1 Pet. 3:6)
5) a son called his father Lord (Matt. 21:30)
6) the Roman Emperor was called Lord (Acts 25:26)
7) Roman authorities were called Lord (Matt. 27:63)
“Lord” is not the same as “God.” “Lord” (the Greek word is kurios) is a masculine title of respect and nobility used many times in the Bible. If Jesus were God, then for the Bible to say he was “made” Lord would make no sense.
24. Bible says that Jesus was lower than angels
2007-04-05 19:57:18 · update #4
Hebrews 2:9 “But we do see him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus.”
God, the Creator of angels, can not be lower than His own creation, but Jesus was. Therefore, Jesus was not God.
25. Bible says that Jesus called the Father “my God”
Matt. 27:46 “My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?”
John 20:17 “I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.”
Rev. 3:12 “… the temple of my God… the name of my God… the city of my God… comes down out of heaven from my God.”
Jesus did not think of himself as God, instead Jesus’ God is the same as ours.
26. Bible says that God cannot be seen, but Jesus was
John 1:18 “no man has seen God at any time.”
2007-04-05 19:58:01 · update #5
jesus was just one of the prophets who the true god sent to tell people about him and to worship him...
peace
proud muslima
2007-04-05 20:01:53 · update #6
You are definitely missing the spiritual answers...Jesus is the Son of God and was in the beginning with God and is a part of God known as the son.. God has always been Father, Son and Holy Spirit... the Son did come to the world and was born of a woman and was called Jesus. Jesus was a man who was also in the beginning a part of the whole of God. Jesus was God in the flesh and flesh is by order of God, to be in submission to the spirit. God would hardly break his own order. Jesus was in the flesh and was in submission to the Father in heaven he was totally human and did depend on his Father. God did come to the world to fulfill the law that man could not live up to.. In order to do this God became a man and did overcome sin as a man.. It is the only way to salvation as the law did apply to man and it was man who fell short. He learned obedience as a man and he overcame sin as a man he overcame temptation as a man... All these things Jesus did the Bible does explain and why it was this way, please keep reading and pray for spiritual understanding as these things are promised to those who love and seek his truth.
Please understand God is God, vastly superior to man's understanding when you reach a problem and can not with your carnal mind understand, trust God and seek him for his revelation rather than find a more human God who agrees with your limited understanding.
2007-04-05 20:09:00 · answer #1 · answered by djmantx 7 · 8⤊ 1⤋
You miss so much. Why do Muslims always do this?
If you are going to use the Bible, use it right.
Here:
Hebrews 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
And then there is this, you Muslims should pay more attention:
Mark 12:35 While Jesus was teaching in the temple courts, he asked, "How is it that the teachers of the law say that the Christ is the son of David? 36 David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared:
" 'The Lord said to my Lord:
"Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
under your feet." ' 37 David himself calls him 'Lord.' How then can he be his son?"
The large crowd listened to him with delight.
2007-04-05 20:21:54 · answer #2 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jesus Christ is God!!! That's is why there is a New Testament! Because he came to the earth to be in the flesh! So we couldn't say that He didn't have to live in the flesh! If you knew Jesus Christ! Than you would know that He is God!!! It's easy to know the truth! all you have to do is accept Jesus Christ into your heart and truly mean it,and you'll be saved! You sound so confused! because you've been tricked! At least now He's opened your eyes to what is really real!Once you truly know Jesus Christ,you'll never be tricked again!!! He said I knew your name before the foundation of the earth! So we've been around for a long time! Don't be stupid,and lose your own soul!!!
2007-04-05 20:26:53 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
According to the New Testament and hence, Christianity, Jesus is G-d. According to Judaism and Islam, Jesus is not G-d. Jesus is irrelevent to all the other faiths on the planet.
Your own quote indicates that Jesus isn't G-d:
>God does not need to learn, but Jesus learned.
2007-04-05 20:05:39 · answer #4 · answered by Kathy P-W 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I know you will not choose this answer best answer but it doesn't matter if I can at least show you where i stand then I am happy
furthermore I know that you will dissagree with everything I will tell you at first--please look further into this with out placing personal bias on openions.. thanks
1. are you subordinate to your dad? are you obediant to your parents? since you are subordinate to your parents then you are not human.... right? lol....
Jesus was by nature God and Human as you are by nature Human and so Just because His father ranks above him (as he sits at the right hand of the father) does not mean that he does not carry the characteristics of Diety
As Paul stated that in Jesus the FULLNESS of DIETY dwell -- and as we see in scripture so does the fullness of humanity dwell...
God alowed his son to become a man... so that he could be sacrificed by the sins (the people who created the sins) of the world--as a sin offering...
Jesus slept--Jesus wept--Jesus cried--Jesus increased in knoledge and wisdom... these were from his HUMAN nature...
Jesus was the son... the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON--the TRUE son... not adopted son but the only begotten son...
Jesus said "I and the father are ONE" meaning in his diety... but you already knew that verse and also have counter verses but i want to submit to you that this is not a chess game... this is not about which verse is better than what verse... i submit to you that you look at all the context togeather instead of pulling out different variations of scripture and trying to attach them togeather... you should look at the meaning the the letters starting with Mathiew --> John...
the Pharacies even understood the claims of Jesus and to them it was Blasphony...
John stated "the word became flesh...."
John also stated about the word that "in the begining was the word" -- in the begining was Jesus?
"the word was with God and the word was" what? "GOD."
Why would John make such a claim?
Why would the writer of Genesis claim that God stated "Let US make man in OUR immage" ?? why plural? why let US... who was God talking to?
there was nothing made that was not made threw Jesus... the Holy spirit was there in the begining--he hovered over the waters... Jesus was there in the begining for in the begining was the word... and the FATHER was there in the begining for he is God...
maybe you already know all this and have learned some counters--but remember... its not about counters... because we could be here all day countering back and fourth... in the end its all about faith...
why do you believe what you do?
faith...
this is the reason we all get up in the morning....
listen--if i was to place my bet and wage my eternal existance based upon rather or not Jesus was Lord then I would have to look at the alternitives:
1. If Jesus is not God -- but i believe he is as well as the Father... then nothing will happen to me when i Die...im safe...
2. If Jesus IS God -- and i do not believe in him... then yes there are major consenquenses "the only way to the father is THREW ME" -- "I am the way the truth the life"...
so which is it?
Please understand it does not matter what you believe truth will always be true...
we can stand in the freeway and say that the cars will not hit us all day long until we are hit and hospitalize--or we can look further into the truth that is here and realize that I better get out of the freeway...
I realized that I better put my faith in Jesus Christ because If i dont then there is an eturnal consenquence... something i do not even want to imagine...
thank you
2007-04-05 20:29:20 · answer #5 · answered by johnblessed01 4 · 0⤊ 3⤋
If you can quote scripture, why don't you know that Jesus was the "son" of God . Jesus was in "human " form , Born miraculously to the virgin Mary her husband Joseph. He learned along the way of life like all the rest of us , except God was his teacher, and could also be ours if we choose to let him ! I believe in God , but also have a lot of questions of my own . Thats where " Faith " comes in ! Believing without proof is faith ! My mom always said : Wait till you get there and ask him yourself ! Good advice I guess , what else can we do ? Get an easier translation Bible, it will be easier to understand ! Good luck !
2007-04-05 20:09:05 · answer #6 · answered by K.Heat 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Absolutley, no question. Jesus is God in man form. But, to the people who says the Bible does not have all the answers, they are wrong.
2007-04-13 19:35:46 · answer #7 · answered by Daraqueen92 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
John 10:30- I(Jesus) and my Father(God) are one.
Gen 1:26- And GOD said, Let US make man inOUR image, after OUR likeness: .......
God the Father, Jesus, and The Holy Ghost are all God. Three different parts but they are all God.
It's like and egg. You have the shell, the white, and the yoke; but it is still one egg.
2007-04-05 20:35:28 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
In my beliefs, Jesus is not God. God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are separate personages united in purpose. As you have pointed out it is clear as day. I can not see how the Nicene creed is true, I've tried but there are far to many flaws in it. The Bible clearly demonstrates they are not. The Nicene creed looks more-so like an attempt to avoid polytheism than anything. I wonder how many thumbs down this will generate.
Regardless of how anyone sees God, we need to understand that God is merciful. He will not condemn someone to an Eternity of Hell for not understanding Him.
God bless.
2007-04-05 20:17:30 · answer #9 · answered by Radictis 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
no man has seen God but only the son who came from him. you miss quote. any way I know Jesus is God. with God god's gift of salvation. while on earth his knowladge may have been limited he did not need to tell the people every thing. I sugest you read the whole bible starting with the new testiment good luck.
8No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known.
2007-04-05 20:00:46 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋