For Atheist: If energy cannot be created nor destroyed than how did the universe begin?

Question

Oh yes, also matter cannot be created and nor destroyed.

Give me proof from where did energy created mass or vice versa. What started the Big Bang Theory? How did a single cell created itself? Why is everything so complex?

God wouldn't be God if it created itself, right. God is not at war with Science.

Correction: God wouln't be God if it was created by someone or something.

Answer 1

Oh you done gave them one they cannot answer. I shall stick around here to read all the replies to your question! Good one!

Answer 2

I have an interesting answer to your problem. First of all, I wouldn't exactly call myself an Atheist but I'll answer none the less.

Before all matter existed, the energy that made it up was stationary. There was no space, all the energy was condensed into an area around the size of a grapefruit. With no space, there was no time, as the two are inexplicably linked. Therefore, before the universe existed, there was no time. The beginning of the universe is the beginning of time and nothing existed before, because there was no before. It's a little hard to grasp, and it still leaves some questions, like 'why did the universe come into existence?', but the same question could be asked of God, as in 'why does God exist?'

Answer 3

The question begs a positive answer to an earlier question: Did the universe have a beginning?

The best knowledge we have so far is that indeed the universe did have a beginning. Matter, energy, space and time all are PART of the universe, and came into being together - the whole comprising the universe. Stephen Hawking has written about how this may well have come about, such as quantum fluctuations at the boundary of a black hole.

So the beginning of the universe is the same question as the beginning of space, time, energy and matter. You get back to the basic question: why is there anything and not just nothing at all?

I know of no reason to involve speculations about anything supernatural in considering the natural world. Theology and science have taken separate paths since Thales of Miletus, around 700 B.C. Please don't try to sneak gods, spirits and fairies into science now - if you keep them in your church, I promise not to insist on reading from Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking from your pastor's pulpit.

Answer 4

The mystery of existence is there no matter what anyone says or believes or thinks. Science and religion both can't comment on what's outside the universe or how the universe actually started. Even big bang and other cosmologies that postulate an endless cycle of universes being created and destroyed can't measure or determine anything 'outside' or 'before' the universe because our science, our religions, our brains, etc. are all constrained by the very universe we find ourselves a part of! The problem with religion is that many religions take the vastness of God away and reduce God to a made-up, silly ego projection that is worshipped and believed in and attributed with all silly crap.

Answer 5

Well matter and energy are different forms of the same thing, so you don't need to make that distinction.

And the answer is that it was probably always here in some form. The big hot theory right now is M Theory and it has it coming from a collision in the underlying frame work of other universes. I don't know if it is right or not, but its been around about eight years and all the math makes sense.

Answer 6

You give the answer yourself :

Correction: God wouln't be God if it was created by someone or something.

So the universe can was created and not always there.
Only God can be always there.

Why ???
Do you need God to explain that the universe was created by God ?

And you do not bother at all that God was not created ???

Why are you making things so complicated ?

"Why is everything so complex?"
( you dont solve the complexity with a god , Nooooo you make it even more complex ! )

Answer 7

That is an eternal mystery, on par with the question "If god created everything, who created god?"

The big bang explains how the universe took the shape we know today, but does not even attempt to explain where the matter came from.

Darwin explains how life evolved but not where life came from.

The point of being an atheist is that it's okay not to have an explanation for everything. When theists don't know something, they make up a reason why god must have done it.

Answer 8

e = mc^2

Energy can be transformed into matter.

Matter can also be transformed into energy.

* The answer of how the energy originated is a philosophical one rather than a scientific one.

More evidence: The Conservation of Matter.Law states that MATTER cannot be created.

What this means is that there is no need to imagine a god to create the universe. Every single piece of evidence we have indicates that the matter/energy of the universe has always existed, and always will. It can be neither created not destroyed.

While it may be difficult to get our heads around that concept today, there will come a time when it makes complete sense, just like thunder.

On the other hand, there is not a single piece of evidence indicating that God exists.

Answer 9

im no astrophysicist(yet) but i do know quite a bit about physics, and it has something to do with the law of conservation of mass being destroyed by the nuclear age, since we can destroy a singular atom and create enormous amounts of energy. basically christians and big bang theorists are in the same hole, what started it? so basically you can ask unto me, what created the universe, i can ask unto you, what created god? and before you answer god has always been, think about the fact that time is a tangible force, its not just a measurement, but thats advanced physics, which i am assuming you are a fundie, you wouldn't understand. don't feel bad almost no one understands not even 1% of athiests understand.

Answer 10

The big bang theory is a theory only, looking at certain phenomenon (ie the universe expanding) you look backwards to the moment when it began and since we can't know we develop a theory.

It is not an answer, unlike the assumption that their is an all powerful being called God. Which we can't know, so we have to believe. Its funny that we try to compare science and religion, they are fundamentally different things.

Answer 11

It’s a triangle. You stand at the apex and in the middle are the myriad questions pertaining to what we don’t yet about the universe and reality itself. The two other points of the triangle are taken by two other people telling you conflicting arguments to answer the questions in the middle. The answers that the one on the left has are to be taken completely on faith because absolutely nothing he says can be backed up by anything even remotely resembling fact or proof. The one on your right has many answers that can be backed up by proof and as a result of this he can extrapolate about what he does not yet have the ability to know beyond doubt.

I’m thinking you’re listening to the one on the left. Me, I’ll take the right everyday.