Please, be gentle, i'm actually looking for an answer, not to just get people angry.
Look at it this way- if God has planned the moment of every birth and death, aren't the mother who has the abortion or the murderer just going along with god's plan?
I'm looking at psalm 139, verse 16. It says " You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day before I began to breathe. Each day was recorded in your book."
Now, if each day is recorded before you were born, wasn't it in the book already that you were going to be aborted or murdered? Isn't the mother or the murderer just doing what God had planned for them to do, because the person who died was already scheduled to have been killed on that day?
2007-04-05 06:24:38 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Josh, considering those links were absolutely useless, it looks as though you just desided to insult me instead of giving me an answer. Way to be helpful, thanks.
2007-04-05 06:30:21 · update #1
Remember we have freewill, so we can decide what we would like to do.
The verse you given is not applying to all human
God is the only one has the right to get someone’s life.
2007-04-05 06:30:42 · answer #1 · answered by want to learn 1 · 2⤊ 2⤋
You question is pretty simple to answer!
God KNOWS when we will born and when we will die because he can see all of time. He did not make your parents have you, they CHOSE to have you, he just knew it would happen.
Same with death! God never made an infant die from abortion, he just knew the mother would choose abortion!
That does not mean the he likes her choice, but HE DID GIVE HER THE CHOICE to sin or not to sin.
Think of this way. Your Dad trusted you as a teenager to be able to go out and do your own thing without getting into trouble, even though he KNEW you would get into trouble at some point in time! That does not mean he is okay with you getting into trouble! It means he gave you the freedom of choice that he felt you should have in hopes that you would make the right decisions. You still have to pay the price when you do something wrong!
2007-04-05 06:51:19 · answer #2 · answered by Jimmie K 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
A good ?, but just a bit askew...God does not plan our birth or death--we do...we plan our life agenda according to what we want to get out of it when we get here. It then becomes somewhat of a contract to the Godhead because He, in turn looks forward to the input presented by you during this time.
Now, as a gift to doing this, we are given free-will choice. God does not care one way or the other how you use this...it is yours...just as the consequences of those choices are yours.
The whole point being...what did you get out of making the choice? Does the outcome reflect Who & What You Are--a pure love entity? Then so be it, else next opportunity, which is your very next moment, do better, make a wiser choice....See?
One thing that should be understood here is that we, as human, prioritize our errors & shortcomings...the Godhead does not...they see these on one plane...it is what YOU become of your experiences that counts. The one exception is suicide, which is a direct breach of your "contract" and the consequence of such is to go back into another human life to redo the very same experience to see if you can make a better decision in the matter...no time to see loved ones, no rest from the trials, no celebration for the accomplishments...it's an immediate "back to the frontlines".
The other thing you may wish to understand is that we should not judge other's agendas or the choices they make...yes, they may effect us, but how? Now, that is our choice, isn't it?
2007-04-05 06:48:40 · answer #3 · answered by MsET 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Before you are born, you are with God.
He decreed that each soul be born of woman to make an ultimate decision of who they would follow.
It was decreed by God THAT you would be born, WHEN you would be born, and for
how long you are decreed to live out your life. Things can interfere with the plan of God, such as accidents, abortion, or someone murdering you.
Don't be confused thinking that God already knows each and every decision you will make, where you will decide to live, whether or not you will follow Him, etc.
He does not know those things, nor does he care to know them.
You are not "scheduled" to die at a specific moment, but you do have a lifespan that may or may not be predetermined by God;
for example, Gods Election are here to do a specific job for Christ; therefore, they will not perish until a specifically appointed time.
But you have to understand that not all people have free will. The election of God do not have free will because the Bible states they were already judged and justified before the foundation of this earth age, based on the fact that they already showed that their decision was for God, because this is the group that stayed loyally on Gods side when Satan rebelled.
The only people who need free will are those who either followed satan in that war, or else stayed neutral, not caring either way.
Those folks are here to make an ultimate decision. To say that abortion is only going along with Gods plan is wrong indeed.
If you abort a child, you are not only accountable for that one death, but you are held accountable for killing each and every soul that was determined to come thru that baby you aborted - think of all the decendants that would have come thru that one - their kids, grandkids, great grandkids, etc. All those people were stopped and you
caused an interruption of the plan of God.
Believe this: He is not at all happy with that.
2007-04-05 06:55:09 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I will be honest...I am a new Christian. It is human sinful nature to perform acts such as abortions & murder. These things are not of God. If it was God's plan to give you a child, then God has his own plan for that child's life. If the mother carrying the child decides, on her own "free will", to have an abortion...that is the mother's choosing, not God's. Also, waaaayyy back in Exodus when the commandments were given to Moses...it clearly states that You shall not murder. Therefore, the responsibility for acts of murder (and any other form of sin) falls on the person who is committing them. People change God's plan every second of the day by choosing to do what is against Him. He knows what you do...but it's up to us to listen to Him to find out what His desires are for our life. I hope this helps some....I tried!
2007-04-05 06:41:29 · answer #5 · answered by Lyndi 1 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Fate is a myth.
What Controls Your Future?
- Can You Control Your Destiny?
- - Predestination and Free Will--Reconcilable?
- - Foreordained--Individuals or a Group?
- - How You CAN Affect Your Future!
http://watchtower.org/e/20050115/article_01.htm
Free Will is for real.
The Wonderful Gift of Free Will
- How We Are Made
http://watchtower.org/library/dg/article_05.htm
If Fate were Fact, we could never change our plans.
It has been used as an excuse to do whatever seems easiest, instead of working hard for the best outcome.
Fate is Flawed!
2007-04-06 01:40:15 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
God certainly has perfect plans in all our lives. Moreover Love, does not plan evil in any of our lives. The problems that occur in life are due to wrong choices that somebody made....either us or somebody else of us. Humans are free to make any decision they want and put it into action. Why doesn't God prevent it? hmm....why didn't he prevent Adam from getting the apple? same answer here
2007-04-05 06:46:55 · answer #7 · answered by DonaF 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, the mother or murderer is not part of God's plan. In the Ten Commandments it states "Thou shalt not kill." Yes, God knows when You will die. However, when people turn from God and decide to play Him by taking others lives; that is the influence of Satan and the world's way of thinking. Honestly, I respect your question. But, I believe that somtimes we can hinder or interfere with God's plans when we try to take everything under our own control.
2007-04-05 06:31:11 · answer #8 · answered by YoungScholar 2 · 2⤊ 2⤋
I have struggled with this one before too. I look at it like this
--------Just because God knows it will happen doesn't mean he will be pleased. That's like saying "I know I'll die one day... so why not just kill myself now?!"--------So I've decided that God knows that I will follow Him and choose not to break his commandments.
This life is a test for us, NOT GOD.
Jimmie K gave a decent answer too.
2007-04-05 11:36:52 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Remember free will is a truth. He has a plan but we don't always live it. No its not in G-d's will or part of the plan. One thing He hates is the shedding of innocent blood. (proverbs i think?)
That person had a plan and did not live it out. His plan does not include sin. We all need revelation on His righteousness at times.
His Son atones for sin, but sin and murder are not in the plan. Thats our sinful nature and rebellion.
2007-04-05 06:30:14 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
You're absolutely correct to question this. The larger question is that if god plans everything, there is no such thing as free will.
God planned for me to be an atheist. God planned for AIDS to kill so many people. God planned for the crusades to kill so many people, etc.
Whatever we do, or not do, have no impact on the final outcome. How desperate a picture is that?
2007-04-05 06:38:23 · answer #11 · answered by CC 7 · 1⤊ 3⤋