why does God have a need to "test" us with satan? why would He need that validation of being chosen?

Question

so........why the big Test with satan? it sounds like a kids fairy tale....an evil one. wheres the hero?
thoughts?

i believe in a higher power...but i also believe whatever man had right, hes lost. and thats a shame. i dont buy into organized religions

Answer 1

The Christian god is mentally ill.

Answer 2

God doesn't test us with Satan. He has no need to test us. We have free will. Think of it like this: say that u have a son that has completely destroyed his life and is a totally bad influence. Now imagine that you have another child. You can give that child all the good advice you want but ultimately, the choice to either take your advice or follow your son's advice is strictly that child's. That's what its like in real life. Satan made a choice: he chose to rebel against God. We can either follow God's advice or follow Satan's. If we follow God, we have a reward just like when your child follows your good advice, they will have a reward. If we follow Satan, we have a consequence just like when your child follows that rebellious son, he faces a number of tragic consequences. There is no test involved. Now God does test our FAITH in a number of ways, but that test does not involve compromising our salvation, nor does it involve Satan. He allows us to choose our love and tests our trust in Him. Parents do the same thing. We allow our children to make their own decisions (at a certain age) but it gets to a point where we ask them to trust us and follow our advice and commands. However, unlike human parents, God doesn't need us to validate Him. Hes God!!! He single-handedly created the entire universe and everything in it!!! I hope this has answered you question.

By the way, I don't believe in organized religion either. I believe in God, more specifically, Jesus Christ. I am a follower of Christ, not a "Christian", "Protestant", "Catholic", or "Apostate Christian". There is a huge difference. If anyone wants to know about that, please feel free to email me.

Take care and God bless!

Answer 3

YHVH is not "testing" us... mankind *chose* satan's way. satan lied to Eve and told her that YHVH was hiding something and that she would *not* die as YHVH said she would (hence all the un-Scriptural teaching that have been adopted by most religions that when you die you keep on living in some other realm) satan convinced her she didnt need YHVH and she and Adam *chose* to believe satan and 'rule themselves' without God. YHVH has merely given mankind every possible moment (see 2 Peter 3:9) to figure out that the *cannot* rule themselves and that God's Way is the *only* way to live.

now we have come to the crucible of time, where we have the ability to set off a chain reaction destroying the atmosphere with a nuclear war and have hateful radicals trying to (and soon will) build nuclear weapons. also scientists estimate the enviroment, at the current rate of destruction, will reach the "point of no return" by 2050. God's way is the only answer, but mankind defiantly continues to seek a political, self-rule answer. YHVH will not allow His creation to be destroyed. He will "bring to ruin those ruining the earth".

So every person must choose (and to refuse to choose is the same as making a choice) between supporting and being active in human governmental self-rule (politics) or choosing to be "no part of this world" as YHVH's only-begotten son Y'hshua set the example for us. Follow Y'hshua's example. Shun the haughty politics of "this world" and "love your enemy" and preach YHVH's coming Kingdom on earth as it is in Heaven.

it is your choice... politics of this world's self-rule (satans deception) or
God's Way of peace and love as exemplified by His son Y'hshua

Answer 4

God created angels and humans not as robots who will follow his commands or do what when he pushes a button.

Satan's existence proves that God gave all of us free will. The bible refer to Satan as one 'who did not stand fast in the truth.' Meaning, he used to be in the truth (God's follower) but left. It was because of his desire to be worshipped that made him rebel against God. God does not work with Satan...thing is when Satan told Eve in the Garden of Eden that she will not die if she eat the forbidden fruit and that she will be like God knowing good and bad, he was implying that God was hiding something good from them...that God himself was a liar (Coz God said theyll die once they touch the fruit).

Satan attacked God's sovereignty or his right to rule over man. That man is better off without God. This is a question we all face, to whom do we give an answer to?

Then and there God could have destroyed Satan also Adam and Eve but there were many angels watching, and the challenge Satan raised would not be answered. In a way, God has allowed Satan to prove his point, to show the other creations how he will be leading man..or how man will lead without God.

And as we see now, man has indeed dominated man to his injury...human government however noble its purpose may be cannot remove sickness, poverty, war and death....God has not interfered in Satan's ways of leading man, that's a reason why suffering happens.

Second, Satan questioned man's integrity, that he will forget God when suffering comes (story of Job). Here you will see that suffering did not come from God but all from Satan.

In a way,we are like Job, proving to Satan that he is wrong in accusing God that he is not worthy to rule us and that we will forget God when we suffer.

Illustration: A father was accused by a neighbor that he was abusing his child. Who would be the one to prove the father's inocence? Of course, the child, that way, the accuser would be proven wrong, we need to prove to Satan that God is not an abusive father and that we will not turn our backs on him should suffering comes.

Answer 5

I understand where you are coming from when you asked this question. I guess God wants us to make a choice when it comes to deciding if you want to follow in God's footsteps or follow in an evil path. I guess God would need the validation of being chosen because, he was beaten and died on the cross for us, he didn't go through that for nothing. God died on the cross for all of us, so he wants everyone to make a choice. God tests us because he wants to see how much we believe in him, and how much faith we have still have in him. If you were God if you didn't test your followers every now and then they might lose faith in you because they might forget that you are there.

Answer 6

God doesn't need validation...the devil does-that's why the devil tests you. The hero's are those that beat the devil at his game.

Answer 7

God doesn't need to be validated, we are the ones that need validation....