Global Warming, the debate is over?

Question

Or is that just the propaganda unthinking unscientific minded individuals want to pull over all our eyes? Sounds like a logical fallacy to me.

http://epw.senate.gov/speechitem.cfm?party=rep&id=236132

Did any of you read the article or just my comments? don't think either of you got past the first 2 words.

It's not a matter of who, but whether or not the reasoning and facts cited are reasonable. You need to ask yourself that question.

Sorry about the post I didn't get a chance to check all the information. I like to think a little more than that before I respond. Sometimes I snap to a decision to quickly.

Answer 1

You have to be kidding. That's from Senator Imhofe, a Senator from an oil state whose extreme (and wrong) position on this is well known.

Now, these should actually end the debate. They're the position of the vast majority of scientists, and a majority of politicians too. Because they're based on mountains of verified scientific data, not a few skeptics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Climate_Change_Attribution.png

http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf

The data is why the vast majority of scientists believe global warming is real and caused by us.

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686

The video recommended above is equally biased.

It is scientifically wrong. The producer has a clear bias. Channel 4 had to apologise for his unfair distortions of scientific views after they broadcast a 1997 movie of his trashing the environmental movement in general. Details:

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2355956.ece

" A Channel 4 documentary claimed that climate change was a conspiratorial lie. But an analysis of the evidence it used shows the film was riddled with distortions and errors."

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/03/swindled/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Durkin_(television_director)

http://www.medialens.org/alerts/07/0313pure_propaganda_the.php

Channel 4 itself undercuts the movie in a funny way. If you go to their website on the movie you find links to real global warming information. They also have a way to "Ask the Expert" about global warming. The questions go to a respected mainstream scientist who supports human responsibility for most of global warming.

Yes, there have been natural climate changes in the past. But that proves nothing. The data clearly shows the present warming is mostly caused by us.

Answer 2

I will say that the debate over whether it is happening is over. You never hear people saying that the weather is the same as even 10 years ago, unless they move around way too much to notice changing trends in a given area.

What matters now is what to do. No matter the cause we should do something, because otherwise it'll cost a ton of cash to fix.

We can regulate the climate fairly easily, to maintain a general variance that's accepted, which will cause the ice caps to melt at their normal rate, and stop things like natural disasters from getting worse.

Plus I want to go out into my city in the middle of summer and not have to worry about the toxic smog, that **** ain't right.

Answer 3

Global warming is the biggest farce of the modern era. Why else would someone like Al Gore be it's spokesman. Forty years ago all of the leading scientists were saying that we were headed for another ice age. Scientists are mixed up as to whether global warming will cause the earth to heat up, or, as in The Day After Tomorrow, cause an ice age. I agree the earth IS getting warmer. However, this is just a natural cycle of earth. Some scientists say that other planets in our solar system are also going through a warming phase. The greenhouse gases that we generate are not helping to aid this cycle in a positive manner, but, mankind is NOT the cause. There are just as many respected scientists refuting global warming, but, the media primarily only covers the other side. Do I believe that the earth will melt with a fervent heat. Yes. But, that is a debate about religious faith and not about the environment. All you have to do to end the debate over global warming is to ask one question. Over the course of recorded history, the earth has experienced several mini ice ages. (At one point, before cars were even thought of, most of Europe was covered in snow and ice for years.) What caused those ice ages to end?


And yes, I read the article.

Here is a little science lesson for the uninformed out there. Before something can become fact, it first is an hypothesis, then a theory. Global warming is only in the theory stage. Any one who blindly follows a theory of science without questioning it, is a fool. Global warming is a theory and until it is fact, it should not be preached as fact.

Answer 4

U do not need all this to prove or disprove your position,just look at the data. It doesn't make any difference that this winter was one of the coldest in some parts ever on record for several years. When it starts the real global warming u will know it there will not be any days that we break a record cold that has been for 100 years. I worked for NASA and had access to a lot of pictures of Mars . Those pictures showed lots of river beads and canyons that are much larger than ours . Now if Mars was that hot how hot was earth.????

Answer 5

The phrase the "debate is over" is pure propaganda. Phrases like that and "there can be no doubt", "the proof is overwhelming", "all the experts agree" is a way of saying if everybody agrees, you should agree and YOU SHOULD NOT QUESTION THE SCIENCE. What is more if an expert speaks out against it, then it must be because he is a maverick, or in the pockets of big oil.

Answer 6

Everybody should watch this video. It is excellent, if long. Honest data, well thought out and the speakers have impeccable scientific credentials. There is no political nonsense and they explain the sources of all their data. It will make you look at the debate in a completely different manner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU

It should be noted here that failure to stick their neck out and argue with public opinion does not constitute scientific agreement.. Some scientists have been repeatedly misquoted and lied about by the IPCC, to the point of even using their names after they resigned in disgust. Remember that the IPCC isn't in the business of sorting fact, their mandate is to prove global warming is real. That is what they are paid to do. And Wikipedia is not a reliable source for anything. Everything from their should be verified elsewhere.

Answer 7

Quick! Who gave that speech?

Answer 8

Wow that guy sounds like a nut-case "a secular religion" haha

All that matters is what the climatologists think.

here:

Answer 9

all these ravings will not have the slightest effect on climate change
this might
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AiYnlZ2_kwq2dMofC2Y7wGDty6IX?qid=20070404121718AAHcuvo&show=7#profile-info-806cfcfd54c819f2d72dcca3e2690d12aa