Trinity is a Pagan concept.
http://www.thunderministries.com/history/triad/triarch.html
2007-04-04 04:26:23
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answered by Green Lantern 4
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Proverbs 8:22-31 YHWH produced me as the beginning of his way...I was brought forth as with labor pains..
MIcah 5:2 And you, O Bethlehem..from you there will come out to me the one who is to become ruler in Israel, whose ORIGIN is from early times, from the days of time indefinite.
Colossians 1:15 firstborn of all creation.
Yes, Jesus was the first Son created.
Before that God created the Universe and the earth. Then Jesus became a master worker creating the rest of life. John 1:1-4.
Jesus was the first spirit Son created, and had there not been rebellion in the Universe, we would not have needed his perfect blood, as a human to pay for us.
Hebrews 4:6 But when he again brings his FIRSTBORN into the inhabited earth,...
Isaiah 43:10b Before me there was no God formed and after me there continued to be none. 11) I-I am YHWH/Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.
2007-04-04 05:51:19
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answered by tienna 3
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Who can measure the greatness of God ? He is not limited to time and space. We humans are limited to and governed by time and space, but God who is infinite cannot be comprehended nor measured by our finite minds. God, who is eternal, has no beginning or end. Jesus, who is very much God, also has no beginning or end. Eternity is something that mere mortals cannot wrap our minds around. Jesus exists for all eternity. The entire history of our earth is just a tiny blip in the realms of eternity. If it were possible to stand on the edge of time and gaze back through the countless eons, Jesus would always be there. If one could peer into the future for billions of years, Jesus is there as well. Time is no longer relevant in eternity.
Jesus has always existed as part of the triune God-head. In the beginning of our creation, the heavens and the earth, light and darkness, plant life, animal life, etc, God said "Let us make man in our own image." He was speaking to Jesus and the Holy Spirit. "Us" and "Our" are definitely plural.
Also, In Genesis 1:1, we read, "in the beginning God..." The original Greek word for God is Elohim. The meaning of Elohim is God in the plural sense, which proves the existence of Jesus in the trinity before the earth ever existed.
2007-04-04 04:28:37
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answered by jewel 3
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As an entity of God, a member of the Trinity, no. Jesus the human had a beginning at His conception by the Holy Spirit upon Mary, but Christ, the member of the Trinity, Has no beginning or end. He willingly took upon Himself the form of a human so that He could offer redemption through His own perfect human sacrifice for sin. As a member of the Trinty He is known by many names, Son of God, Son of Man, Angel of Jehovah, etc. He preexisted Creation and participated in its formation. In essence He is One and the Same with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit.
2007-04-04 04:27:18
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answered by Brian L 2
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In Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is one being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a mutual indwelling of three persons: the Father, the Son (incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth), and the Holy Spirit. Since the 4th century, in both Eastern and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as "one God in three persons," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal persons, are of one indivisible Divine essence, a simple being. Supporting the doctrine of the Trinity is known as Trinitarianism. The majority of Christians are Trinitarian, and regard belief in the Trinity as a test of orthodoxy. Opposing, nontrinitarian positions that are held by some groups include Binitarianism (two deities/persons/aspects), Unitarianism (one deity/person/aspect), the Godhead (Latter Day Saints) (three separate beings) and Modalism (Oneness).
In addition to God comprising three persons, the Son Himself has two distinct natures, one fully divine and the other fully human.
The doctrine of the Trinity is the result of continuous exploration by the church of the biblical data, thrashed out in debate and treatises, eventually formulated at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD in a way they believe is consistent with the biblical witness, and further refined in later councils and writings.The most widely recognized Biblical foundations for the doctrine's formulation are in the Gospel of John.
2007-04-04 04:15:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus was in the beginning with God.
"In the beginning was the Word [Jesus] and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him,and without Him, nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
John 1 verses 1 - 5
2007-04-04 07:00:22
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answered by tahanan_ko 1
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No, it says in John that the Son, was eternally begotten of the father. The finite human mind cannot comprehend this. But, think of it like this, the Son and the Holy Spirit are a showing or extension of his attributes, the very nature of his being, his character.
His attributes, his nature are him, just revealed or shown in different ways. And they have always been him from all eternity.
Just as it is impossible for the finite mind to comprehend an eternal God who always existed. It is also impossible to comprehend that the son is eternally begotten or put forth from the father. That is part of the mystery of the trinity. One God, not three Gods. One. Father,Son and Holy Spirit are all of the same essence and nature of being. Revealed in different ways.
2007-04-04 04:14:28
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answered by Mello Yello 4
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Jesus Christ was and is the only begotten Son of the Father, therefore, in the flesh he has a beginning. Also he existed in the Great Council of Heaven when one third of the Heavenly Host decided to follow Satan. Even then He had to be created.
2007-04-04 04:17:15
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answered by Modern Major General 7
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No, Jesus is a part of the trinity and the bible tells us, in the beginning was God.
2007-04-04 04:25:11
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answered by ? 7
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Jehovah, better known as Jesus Christ, was the spiritually firstborn of God the Father. We came sometime afterward.
Only Jesus was the Begotten Son in the flesh of God the Father through the power of the Holy Ghost.
2007-04-04 04:21:54
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answered by Guitarpicker 7
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