Fundies do you agree with this Baptist preacher: see "godhatesfags.com"?

Question

He quotes the scriptures..and they are apparently not out of context.

This is the extreme example of the hatred spewed by fundamentalists, but it happens every day from many pulpits...how many people are you turning away from God and alienating with your hateful, judgemental rhetoric

Answer 1

Fundie Xian here.

That man and his following are bigots and hate mongers. They are NOT Christian. Please read the Bible for yourself and you will see how he is twisting the scripture to support his disgusting and wicked agenda.

Answer 2

No, I don't agree. Mr. Phelps and Westboro "Baptist" Church(that is the one you're talking about) are both condemned by almost every christian denomination (including my Fundamentalist Baptist church) God doesn't hate anybody he just hates their sins. One sin is no worse than any other sin. He who is without sin should cast the first stone. That means that if you picked your nose and said you didn't you have no right to talk about someone else.

For the record I'm not a "fundie" I'm a fundamentalist.

Answer 3

First of all, the Westboro Baptist Church is NOT a "fundamentalist" church, nor is it truely Christian. If it was fundamentalist, Westboro would believe God's statements in the Bible are LITERALLY true. In this case, while God clearly prohibits homosexual behavior (as well as heterosexual sex outside marriage and adultery), He doesn't state that we are to exact punishment upon the sinner -- in fact, He has repeatedly told us that's HIS job! When judging any sinner for any sin, Christians are strongly cautioned that we must use "righteous judgement" and avoid pronouncement of a penalty. We are also commanded not to hate anyone.

In direct contradiction to the Bible's teachings, Westboro clearly hates gays and encourages acts of hatred against them. They will soon be judged by the One they claim to serve.

Answer 4

That man and his followers are monsters. I just really, REALLY wish that the media would stop giving these people so much attention. Most of us wouldn't even know they exist if it weren't for all the attention the media is giving them. The newspapers and TV are giving these people a public voice. If there was a voluntary media blackout on these psychos, they would probably disappear off the scene. Right now they're reviling in all this publicity. They're not worth the attention their getting. They're nothing but hateful, uneducated, inbred idiots. They're not even a real church, it's just a family that started a "church". 90% of their members are all from the same family.

Answer 5

Oh please, Fred Phelps is nothing but a hate monger who likes opressing his entire family. He's not a fundie, he's just an attention seeker with a vendetta against the world.

Btw, there's a documentary on YouTube about his family. Search for Most Hated Family in America. It's hard to believe that this kind of activity is protected by the US's free speech laws.

Answer 6

"LOVE THE SINNER; HATE THE SIN.

This is a cop out. And, though often quoted, it's not in the Bible. It's true that God tells us to love one another as he loved us. It's also true that God says he hates sin. But Fundamentalists have taken these two diverse statements and made them into a defense for mistreating homosexuals, abortion doctors, and, heaven forbid, women who want equal rights. When attacked for their judgmental attitudes against gays, for instance, this phrase becomes the catch-all defense as to why their actions are okay in "God's eyes." By denying a gay man a right to equal and fair treatment under the law, Fundamentalists aren't "hating" the sinner - they're merely showing their displeasure with the sin. By using the national media to claim that gays are sick and need healing, they aren't showing "hate" - they're merely trying to "love" them by showing they need to be "healed."

Fundamentalists forget that we're not told to "hate the sin." We're told to forgive the sin. In Matthew 18:23-35 Christ tells of a slave who was forgiven his debts (just as Christians are forgiven their sins). This slave, however, refused to forgive the debt of a fellow slave (just as Christ asks us to forgive our fellow sinners). Christ called that slave "Evil." All who call themselves "Christian" absolutely must forgive the sins of any other sinner - even the homosexual. The moment they don't, the moment they start brandishing the "love the sinner but hate the sin" argument, they are themselves condemned by the very God they say they serve."

Answer 7

I wish that the fundamentalists would listen to you and other non-Christians. I think they are turning the message of Christ upside down by using it that way. Spreading hatred in the name of Christ is actually anti-Christian and wins converts for atheism not Christianity. I hope they repent before they are required to explain this to God, for their own sakes i hope this. Peace be with you

Answer 8

I agree with you. That baptist preacher is not helping anyone. You are wrong about one thing, though. The verses are out of context. They are not being interpreted in light of the unifying message of the bible, which is God's love and mercy. Yes, God hates homosexual behavior. That is clear. Yes, God judges sin because he is holy and just. But, God sent his son to die for all sinners, including homosexuals, people who lie, people who cheat on their taxes, people who don't help the poor, people who fail to stand up for what is right, pretty much all of us.

A Christian who hates homosexuals is clearly sinning. Christians who hate anyone are sinning. That does not mean that the Christian is obligated to agree with homosexual behavior. It is possible to like someone, treat them well, show
Christian love and charity towards them, and still disagree with their lifestyle. That is what we are called to do.

Answer 9

A church in my town hosted a debate with that bigot and a local minister. I did not go but the news paper reported on it. the bigot was out matched by over 200 scriptures

Answer 10

If you think that Fred Phelps' little inbred cult is a reasonable representation of any form of Christianity, IMHO you need to have your head examined.

Fred Phelps' little inbred cult is a group that twists the Bible to suit their bigotry and hatred.

And lest you think I'm saying this in order to "defend my faith" or something, I'm not Christian... but even I can recognize Phelps for what he is.

Answer 11

I think Fred Phelps and his lil' congregation in Topeka, Kansas are despicable excuses for human beings! They really take homophobia to a whole new revolting level . They are disgraceful!