Just Ban it!!!?

Question

Why can't we just ban the abaya and niqab? The Azerbaijanis have banned it. The Israelis have banned it. The Tunisians have banned it. And Turkey, the one Muslim democracy in the world (albeit a junk democracy) has banned it. Why can't we just ban it? I'm tired of seeing sixteen-and-seventeen-year-old girls dressed like ninjas. Black abaya for the body, black hijab for the hair, black niqab for the face, sunglasses, a black screen or tiny slits for the eyes, black gloves...It intimidates me. It's sickening. It's like, welcome to thirteenth century Pakistan.

Atreides I'm an Arab Egyptian teen living in Cairo. 'Xenophobia' right back at you.

"We" are the Arab Republic of Egypt.
I probably wouldn't have to get used to it if I lived in the U.S. because it'll be a matter of time before they ban it like sensible countries are doing now. It's just not a big deal in the U.S. yet. It hasn't grabbed attention.
Islam is spreading because Muslims have the highest birthrates in the world, often several times the birthrates of non-Muslims (as you mentioned, as long as Christians keep aborting their babies, Islam will grow :-)). Islam isn't growing because Muslims love their babies, it's growing because Muslims have three, five, seven children per family. Birthrate in Europe is 3.5. Israel, 4.6. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, 6. Afghanistan and Yemen, 7.
Thank you for a totally irrelevant argument.

Joshua the land of the free just got a little too free.

Zul - There are many good reasons to ban the full veil.
(1) Terrorists have been known to use it to disguise themselves as women.
(2) Unlike provokative or revealing clothing, or some clothing of a religious nature like Sikh turbans or Jewish skull caps, the full veil is very, very OBVIOUS and intimidates many people.
(3) Since photos are used on documents like your ID, driver's license, and passport, covering your face would make you impossible to identify.
(4) It has already been banned in three Muslim countries. The Egyptian Minister of Culture called it a 'sign of regression'. Why should it be allowed in the West?
(5) It sends the wrong message about women - that women must cover their entire bodies and be as invisible as possible so men wouldn't see them as sex objects. Like it's the woman's problem!
It's awfully convenient for Halloween though.

Answer 1

I'm not into banning certain types of clothes, I think that's ridiculous in a country where people are apparantly supposed to enjoy freedom. I suppose you like the fact that you are allowed to dress in any way you like, so why do you want to take that right from others who simply have different preferences than you?

I do think it should be banned to cover one's face in public places, for security reasons, but apart from that I think everyone should be free to wear what they like. If someone wants to dress conservative and cover their hair, let them. Don't take away the freedom that you yourself embrace, albeit with a different style.

Answer 2

If the wearer wears it under no compulsion, then how do you justify the ban? Wouldn't that be infringing the individual right of a person to wear what one pleases?

Personally, I find it offensive to see girls wearing micro skirts, gaudy make-ups, plunging necklines and indiscriminate piercings. But these are not good reasons for me to cry foul. I respect that each person is responsible enough to determine the way he or she dresses.

What may be considered morally wrong is to force others to wear clothes according to your own fashion sense. This applies to both pro- and anti- abaya/niqab groups.

Still, the way a person dresses are mostly influence by his/her own community. For instance, wearing only a g-string to work would not help gain my customers' confidence (unless of course I'm working in a strip-club). Or a Catholic nun should not be asked to wear a bikini at Mass. For her, a nun's habit is the social norm of her community.

Thus, society plays an important part in setting the standard of appropriate dressing. Passing laws and banning items of clothing may be effective to a certain extent. But it is discriminating and restrictive.

The issue here is not about whether you can ban the abaya and niqab (obviously you can if your lawmakers wanted to do it). But more pertinently, is your community for or against abaya and niqab?

Answer 3

I can appreciate that you don't personally like the look but the truth is, it's not obscene so it's perfectly acceptable attire. Once we start banning what people are allowed to wear based on personal preference we are taking one step closer to becoming like those countries that have banned it. I'm for freedom of choice to wear whatever I want...even if it's ugly.

Answer 4

Why can't we, humanity, ban or eliminate religion all together............................................................................ ?

We can !

Here's the Solution:

Create a private, personal, direct, divine Relationship with Our Creator and save your Soul from religion.

Only with Our Creator's Love and Peace will we be Truly Free!

Love and Believe in Our Creator;
Love and Believe in Yourself.

"religion is Spiritual fraud"; "religion is the Worse invention of humanity" - Jesus Christ, Buddha and any other being with Spiritual intelligence.

Without God, there is No Love; Without religion, there are No Wars!

Answer 5

you saw " we " what country is " we " if you live in usa get used to it. Islam is spreading , in part by your media's demonizing of it, causing people to have interest where none existed before, leading to questions, and conversions! ( thank you western media ) Islam is spreading in part in the west because we don't kill our babies , we love babies and do not use abortion as a form of birth control. its sickening to see children and women dress like tarts and prostitutes because the tv told them too, sick to see some girl in a leather mini because the corporate media says that gives females power, sick to see them pregnant with no clue who the father is at 14. can't we just ban clothing like that, that reveals so much skin. get used to Islam, as long as Christians keep aborting their babies and focus on money instead of family, we will grow. peace.

Answer 6

Whatever happened to freedom of choice, the land of the free?

Answer 7

Dress code is not to be imposed. Dress as you like and let them dress as they like.
It is equally disgusting for them to see exposed bulks with skimpy clothes.
Why do u wear 3 piece suite in formal occasions? Isnt it more comfortable in your undies?

Answer 8

Sigh, just because you're having Xenophobia, why must everyone compromise to your needs? It's their freedom you know.

Answer 9

Fundamental rights. try not to question them.

Answer 10

ok