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What is your view of Messianics and Messianic Judaism?

Christians and other Jews please feel free to respond.

2007-04-03 10:11:39 · 21 answers · asked by republican_jew 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Actually Jesus was a Jew. He couldnt be a Christian because Christianity didnt exist at the time. Ask any Jew if an atheist Jew is still considered Jewish. The answer would be Yes. Being a Jew isnt dependent on belief. If you were born a Jew you will always be a Jew.

2007-04-03 12:47:50 · update #1

J.P. - Thats absurd. Thats to say that if the Messiah were to come right now all Jews who accepted him would cease to be Jews, whether he really was the Messiah or not.

2007-04-03 12:54:40 · update #2

AlphaBeta - I wasnt being dishonest when I made the comment about fellow Jews. I was born a Jew and Ill die one.

2007-04-03 13:11:26 · update #3

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I've watched my friends over the years(Jewish) search for truth(We are hippy aged).If they tried Transindental Meditation,or tried Zen Buddisim,or wicca,it was cool.The minute my friend David believed in Messiah Jesus.He father threw him out of the house and said he was dead to him and all kinds of stuff.I hear different Jewish entertainers say things like "Once you're a Christian ,your no longer Jewish" How ridiculous is that?

2007-04-03 10:18:24 · answer #1 · answered by AngelsFan 6 · 3 3

This goes back to before Jesus,
The Jewish faith had in some sects that there was to be a Messiah. Those who believe Yeshua or Yeshiva would appear, could very well consider Jesus was that Messiah. So in this question Messianic Judaism is a legitimate belief. The fact that there was this belief from before the time of Jesus doesn't make that belief wrong, as the Messiah would appeared to them as Gods Son . And as Gods chosen people this is not a hard thing to believe that God sent them Yeshiva, or Jesus as the promised Messiah.

2007-04-03 10:44:05 · answer #2 · answered by redd headd 7 · 3 2

If you believe that Jesus Christ was the Messiah than you are, by definition, Christian, not Jewish. Jews believe that the Messiah has not come yet. This is the key difference, all the history before that time is shared so you can still be Christian and follow previous customs and holidays.

From my perspective you can believe whatever you want if it is meaningful to you, as long as you don't try to impose your beliefs on others. There in lies the problem. People who call themselves "Messianic Jews" often try to convert others dishonestly (often the young and uneducated) by telling them they are fellow Jews (like you have done in your question by asking "other Jews" to respond). It is this facet of your belief that often brings negative attention.

2007-04-03 10:38:15 · answer #3 · answered by AlphaBeta 3 · 2 2

Messianic Christianity has no right calling itself Judaism in any way, shape, or form

Messies are just another branch of Christianity that's trying to steal the Jewish religion and heritage

this kind of larceny is horrible and I do not tolerate it well online or in real life

if you want to believe in Jesus FINE...believe...but don't lie and call yourself a Jew while doing it

not only that, but the majority of messianic people who claim they are Jews or have jewish heritage do not

the ones I talk to say that they are Jews because Jesus was a Jew and they are following Jesus which to them makes them a Jew

or there are the people who say that they have one grandparent on their father's side that is jewish so they think that they are...NO, they are not

there is only a VERY SMALL number of true Jews who believe in Jesus and of those they may be Jews but what they are practicing is NOT Judaism!

2007-04-03 10:25:06 · answer #4 · answered by Rhymes with Camera 3 · 4 1

Judaism is by definition awaiting the coming of HaMosiach.

Therefore, anyone who believes Jesus the Nazarene (may his name be cursed and forgotten) is HaMosiach is not a Jew, because they are no longer awaiting the coming of HaMosiach, and have abandoned the Eternal Covenant for the 'New Covenant' claimed by the son of Joseph.

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That's exactly what I assert, and exactly what the Rabbi's I have studied with have asserted.

After the coming of HaMosiach, the whole WORLD will know of G-D's existence, and sin will cease to exist. Religion will cease to exist because all will know G-D directly.

That these things are not currently true is proof any claimant prior to now is a false messiah.

As such, anyone who asserts that Yshua bar-Ysef is HaMosiach is calling the Prophets liars and frauds, and thus calls G-D a liar and fraud.

It's sad when even an atheist can see this and these so-called 'messianic jews' cannot.

2007-04-03 10:18:18 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

From what I have seen, alot of the criticism stems from the fact that most Messianic groups don't believe in the divinity of Christ/don't fully accept the New Testament as scripture, and...either believe that there are 2 standards of conduct for Gods people (i.e. that people of Jewish ancestry must keep the commandments, but gentiles don't have to) or that neither Jews or Gentiles have to live by the commandments. Add to the fact that many of the "Sacred names" groups have infected the Messianic movement...and ya have a whole mess.
What it comes down to, though, is regardless of our nationality, we all need the Salvation of Christ, and we all must believe what He said and keep the commandments....and there are just too many groups out there seeking to make a profit off of believers, while preaching ludicrous things.
Happy Passover!

2007-04-03 12:58:17 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I love Messianic Jews because, imho, they are complete. As a Christian, I find that I often do not completely grasp the meaning of God's Word, and find that most Messianic Jews understand because of the understanding of the Jewish culture that I don't have. I must respectfully disagree with other comments that you can't be both and that Jesus is Christian and not Jewish. Yeshua (Jesus) was Jewish. To follow Christ doesn't make one Jewish, but it makes one a Christian. If one is already Jewish and comes to believe Christ is the Son of God, then one becomes a Messianic Jew.

I say follow your heart and serve the Lord according to your faith. If someone doesn't want to follow Jesus, it is their right to make that decision for themselves.

2007-04-03 10:23:41 · answer #7 · answered by mrs be 1 · 4 2

What about a view from a theban disciple of Yezua? In our family we have christians, my brother is a messianic Jew and I am a disciple of Yezua in Amen, and we "all" get along. I have heard comments from strangers who wonder "how" we can be at opposite ends of faith yet it doesn't come between us. My "answer?" We are all at our own "level" of god's wisdom and we don't degrade or criticize each other because god's will has it's different "avenues." Just because my views are different on "who" God in heaven "is," has never come between us....

2007-04-03 11:42:56 · answer #8 · answered by Theban 5 · 1 2

Just another cute little bundle of absurd beliefs, just like traditional Judaism, or Christianity, or Islam, or take your pick. If it gives you the correct tingly feeling to call yourself a Messianic Jew, knock yourself out. I honestly couldn't care less. The intellectual basis for any of these beliefs is practically nonexistant, so it's all good, and no point arguing.

2007-04-03 10:16:00 · answer #9 · answered by jonjon418 6 · 1 4

First you must find out who are the true Jewish people. Judah was one of the 12 tribes of Israel. If beleive and follow all the words of the Holy bible. You are either a physical Israelite or spiritual Israelite. Semetic people are all the People that came out of Shem, one of Noahs sons.

I don't think Messianic Jews follow the uncut word of God. Therefore that makes them false beleivers of christ. One way you can tell if you are true. Do you know what this week is according to the bible.

2007-04-03 10:18:42 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 5

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