Catholic religion flawed with Saints?

Question

The worship of mary and the saints is an abstract subject dont you agree? I mean here we have them obeyeing 1 God for a minute but then they pray to saints for guidance when they proudly say obey one God and NO OTHER IS WORTH WORSHIP BUT HE, why not just pray to God and understand Saints have no power over your life, only God does, he does NOT share power with men and women. Quit the Idolatry and the trinity for that sake, both flawed.

Dare you deny this revelation?

Yes angel but dont you agree that praying to them and NOT God would be offensive? How do we know that an 80 year old man in Rome knows whats best?

Answer 1

Catholics don’t worship Mary or the saints or the pope. But you are right they are polytheists and they worship three gods. Nothing wrong with polytheism, it’s when they insult my intelligence by trying to tell me that three can somehow be one that is annoying.

Answer 2

I agree with your revelation that the Trinity may be flawed for Eternity, but for this age that is how our God revealed Himself. Ages means universes.

Therefore we can say that the Trinity created this universe - and still, Genesis 1:1 states "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." So, they are one in Spirit - one God.

The Bible did state that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, also the Spirit of Christ, and of course the Holy Spirit, the common denominator is the Holy Spirit.

He could manifest himself as a billion persons, but for our Salvation He only needed three. God forgives, Jesus saves, and the Holy Spirit sanctifies. But all three created the universe.

Once the Salvation work is done, the Bible somewhere mentions that Christ will submit to the Father.

We will have one Father - God the Father in heaven - and He is also the Holy Spirit - bringing to end the controversies of the Trinity. Genesis 1:8 states "Iam the Alpha and the Omega", says the Lord God. "Who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." The singular "is" denodes ONE.

I could be discommunicated for this revelation which differs from all manmade Gospels, but I must also preach the truth( the true Gospel). In the end singular God and Father will prevail in all essence.

Answer 3

I have found praying to the saints and Mary to be wonderful, effective and miraculous... and i'm not even Catholic. So i have to disagree. Besides... i'm not praying to them instead of God/dess. Rather, they are like ambassadors of Heaven. Much as angels are. They just help carry your prayers to the Source.

I personally have never believed or practised anything simply because it was written in scripture or professed by a spiritual leader. I am a mystic. Which means i think for myself... and rely on personal spiritual experience instead. This is what my faith is based on : experience not doctrine. I think all true faith is made that way. Tho you have to have some faith to begin with before your heart is open to seeing and experiencing it in any tangible way.

So it is not idolatry or blasphemy to me. I love the saints and i love Mary. Both Marys, actually. :)

Sofia3

Answer 4

I happen to know a few of the saints.

While they were alive here on earth, they were good, loving friends and relatives.

And as part of the Christian Church, and the people of God, I know that death is no barrier to the authentic love that exists in heaven, and that SHOULD exist here on earth.

I worship my friends in heaven no more than I worshipped them while they were here on earth.

We simply remain friends. We talk. We share the same interests. We help each other. We glorify and worship God together.

The only difference is that they have already been perfected in Christ, while I'm not quite there yet.

And as for God not sharing power with men .... you have no idea what you are talking about.

Grace is defined as God's unmerited power and favor, and the grace of God is certainly available in abundance to every Christian.

God is love, and he has always shared the best he had to give, with all of us, beginning with his divine son, Jesus.

It's no accident that the Blessed Virgin Mary was the first to bask in the fullness of God's grace, and the first to be graced with the very presence of God himself.

It was Jesus who personally founded the Church, and established it on the earth to lead all to salvation, with the help of all the ordinary, grace-filled people who belong to it.

You have no revelation from God. You are simply a fool, writing falsehoods and calling them truth.

Get behind me, Satan!

Answer 5

catholics do not worship Marry, or the saints, or the pope-

A common misconception is that Catholics worship saints. WRONG. This assumption comes from a lack of knowledge...ignorance. Ignorance is dangerous. We HONOR God's special servants (like I explained earlier) like you may honor your father or mother. We ask for their intercession because of their favor with God, because of the characteristics of their life that may be similar to our need. Statues of saints and sacramentals (which is another topic altogether) are NOT idoltry either, as some assume (but again...thus ignorance plays part). They are simply reminders of God and of the help we do have. Seeing them draws our minds and hearts to holiness. Regarldess of what faith you are, when you see a cross, do you think of the wooden beams or God? Most likely God.

Answer 6

Fear what you don't understand. Catholics may pray to a saint for guidance, but if you know the whole story you wouldn't be judging. And you all put us down for not understanding the logic. If you want to debate a issue make sure you know what you are talking about. Then you demand the catholics to quite doing something that you don't understand. Shame on you.I would explain the logic behind it but, I don't think you want to understand. You just expressing your opinion.

Answer 7

First, if you don't belive in the Holy Trinity, you're not Christian.

Second, Catholics do not worship saints, idols or statues. I've seen and answered questions like this a hundred times. Here's a website to help answer your question:

http://catholic.com/library/mary_saints.asp

God bless.

Answer 8

Before Jesus Christ died for our sins and opened the gates of heaven there were no saints in heaven. Therefore there are no Old Testament writings that would mention them.

Very few of the new Christians died before most of the New Testament was written. Therefore there is little in the Bible about asking saints to pray for us.

However the last book of the Bible does talk about the saints in heaven praying.

Revelation 5:8: Each of the elders held a harp and gold bowls filled with incense, which are the prayers of the holy ones.

Revelation 8:3-4: He was given a great quantity of incense to offer, along with the prayers of all the holy ones, on the gold altar that was before the throne. The smoke of the incense along with the prayers of the holy ones went up before God from the hand of the angel.

The Holy Spirit guided the early Church in many things not explained in the Bible including how does the Body of Christ (believers) living on Earth relate to the Body of Christ (saints) living in heaven. We are still one Body.

Catholics share the belief in the Communion of Saints with many other Christians, including the Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Episcopal, and Methodist Churches.

The Communion of Saints is the belief where all saints are intimately related in the Body of Christ, a family. When you die and go to heaven, you do not leave this family.

Everyone in heaven or on their way to heaven are saints, you, me, my deceased grandmother, Mary the mother of Jesus, Mother Teresa and Pope John Paul II.

As part of this family, you may ask your family and friends living here on earth to pray for you. Or, you may also ask the Blessed Virgin Mary, Saint Andrew, or your deceased grandmother living in heaven to pray for you.

Prayer to saints in heaven is simple communication, not worship.

And prayer to the saints is optional not required.

With love in Christ.

Answer 9

Catholics do not worship saints!!!!! To worship someone is to acknowledge that the one who is worshiped is divine, is God. Sometimes we can confuse cultural gestures of reverence for gestures of worship. In doing so, we often judge not as God does, by what is in the heart, but rather by appearances (see Jn 8:15, Is 11:3).
Catholics hold saints in esteem because they are such wonderful images or mirrors of Christ. Paul several times exhorts his readers to be imitators of him: "Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ" (1 Cor 11:1, also Phil 3:17, 1 Cor 4:16).
Mary is the first saint, and holds high honor today, as she did in the early Church. Over the course of history, devotion to Mary has taken many forms, and even has been confused with worship. Church teaching has consistently placed Mary in the company of the saints, however.
Devotion to the saints comes back to the theology of image: Christ is God's image, the saints are Christ's image. We honor them because we desire to imitate them. We pray to them the same as we call upon earthly friends to do a favor for us. This too, is scriptural. In Acts we read of Peter and John going up to the Temple for prayer and encountering a beggar. Peter says to him, "I have neither silver nor gold, but what I do have I give you: in the name of Jesus Christ the Nazorean, rise and walk" (Acts 3:6). Peter makes it clear that he has the power of Christ in his possession.
To be sure, it is Jesus who heals, but Peter holds the right to extend that power. The same can be said of Paul. In Acts 19:11-12 we read, "So extraordinary were the mighty deeds God accomplished at the hands of Paul that when face cloths or aprons that touched his skin were applied to the sick, their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them." These texts are the basis of the Catholic practice of asking saints to help us, of honoring (not worshiping) the bodies and relics of saints.

God bless,
Stanbo

Answer 10

There are several reasons for the veneration of Saints. One is that, it is a way of honouring the saints. And in honouring the saints we honour God Himself. As Vatican II points out, all acts of veneration of the saints ultimately terminate in God. "By its very nature every genuine testimony of love which we show to those in heaven tends towards and terminates in Christ, who is the 'crown of all the saints'. Through Him it tends toward and terminates in God, who is wonderful in His saints ad is magnified in them." (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, 50).

Veneration of Saints is also a form of prayer by which we seek the help and protection of the saints. Moreover, relics inspire us to follow in the footsteps of the saints whose memorials they are