Romans 11:22?

Question

What do you think about 'once saved always saved?'

*is that a cannabis leaf avatar down there?*

Answer 1

I think everyone needs to read the paragraph before it about five times:

"17If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either" - Romans 11:17-21

If God can brake branches off the tree, does that not mean that God can brake you off as well?

Answer 2

This chapter is talking about restoration of the nation Israel.

Paul gives the Gentiles examples of two sides of God. The judgment of God against the rejection of Christ and against sin, and the grace of God to those that will trust Christ

By Grace, we Gentiles were grafted into the Olive tree (Nation Israel), and we can be pruned or broken off so to speak.

It appears that you can lose your salvation only if you reject God and continue sinning. I still think its once saved, always saved. I don't think a person with a REAL born-again experience would ever turn away from God.

Many profess out there but do not have the Spirit within

Answer 3

(Matthew 24:13) But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.

It could mean the end of the present system of thing control by Satan the devil (2 Cor. 4:4). Meaning the destruction of the political, false religions, and commerical systems. Not the destruction of the planet Earth. Earth as a planet won't be destroy, but those who are on Satan's side. Or the end of the person's life, then if the person remain faithful as the opportunity to come back through resurrection on paradise Earth. (Rev. 21:3, 4).

Answer 4

You cannot lose your salvation when you have truly repented and claimed the benefits of the atoning sacrifice of Christ. Your salvation is assured from the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints.

Falling from grace:

This taught that a saved man could fall finally from salvation. It is, of course, the logical and natural outcome of the system. If man must take the initiative in his salvation, he must retain responsibility for the final outcome.

But we know from the bible that no man can save himself. If he could, then Christ's death was in vain. We are called to repentence through the workings of the Holy Spirit. God's elect were chosen before the world was created.

God's gifts and his call are irrevocable (Romans 11:29).

For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son . . . And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified (Romans 8:29-30). All of those God justifies are glorified.

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand (John 10:28).

For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect-- if that were possible (Matthew 24:24). This implies it is not possible to deceive the elect and cause them to fall away.

I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me (Jeremiah 32:40).

Answer 5

I think that the "saving" comes at a point at the conclusion of our lives, not a some point prior to. It is due to Christ's grace that we are saved and his love and atonement that saving happens, but the way we live our lives contributes to it as is taught in Bible in James, Chapter 2.

Answer 6

God, in His supreme Sovereignty, will not get “overruled” at His intention of saving you if you suddenly “changed your mind” about having Him in your life. To all non-Christians and confused Christians, understand that what God wants to happen, does happen, and your salvation is not dependent on your own will, or else that will be salvation through works (which is NOT THE CASE). It is His grace that allowed even our irreconcilable selves to be one with Him. Once God puts a stamp on us as saved, we are saved, and good works come out as fruits of what we believe in. We will not get "unsaved", if we really accepted Christ as our Lord the time we say we've accepted Him. Or else you really didn't consider Him as Lord of your life.

Answer 7

That verse is talking about once you are saved and continue to do good you will always be saved but if you stop believing and go away from your faith in God you won't be saved

Answer 8

The predestination argument is meant in a corporate sense. Christians as a group are always saved. Individuals can become "ungrafted". Check your fruit first, then your connection.

Answer 9

"once saved, always saved" is a false doctrine made up by people who call themselves Christian leaders as a way of attracting converts.

I mean, who wouldn't want to follow a faith that give us absolute assurance that you will go to Heaven?

Unfortunately, this "doctrine" is unbiblical. The verse that you quoted is not the only one that refutes this man made doctrine.

Answer 10

You are not stating anything Scriptural., and you are WRONG if you think this or someone has told you this. Luke 9:62 states that, "And Jesus said unto him, No MAN having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of heaven". This is CHRIST HIMSELF speaking.