Is it not astounding that when I suggest that instead of killing the baby we kill the mom, dad, rapist etc. Everyone claims it is murder, but when I say is it okay to kill the baby, people are like yeah, its our choice u know nothing of the people's situation. Then the people begin to turn and ask what have u done to help, altogether ignoring the intial problem.
What defines murder with you people? All four are living, mom, dad, rapist and baby, so how is killing the baby different from killing the parents?
2007-04-02 03:57:55 · 26 answers · asked by Chris 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
All of my questions have been of the hypotehtical type. If i had my way no one would be killed, rapist in prison, baby in adoption or with parents.
On September 11, 2001, 3,000 people were killed by terrorists, we spent millions of dollars trying to catch them on September 11, 2001 over 400,000 babies were killed because of abortion, yet not a word, same with September 12, 13, 14, etc.
Shouldn't the money go towards helping babies?
2007-04-02 04:03:07 · update #1
Acid, I watched a partial birth abortion video in school, when they stuck the tool up the babies head, it was twitching and moving around, no nerves?
2007-04-02 04:04:24 · update #2
it's no different - a heartbeat = life
Stop the heartbeat = murder
If someome kills a one week old infant with a gun it would be a Heinous crime. How is it different than killing it two weeks earlier? The cowardly pathetic mothers who murder their unborn child as an alternative to birth control deserve the same. How bout we end abortion by eutnanizing mothers who want to kill their unborn! Just as ridiculous of an option...
To destroy a bald eagle egg is a federal offense - kill a human fetus - commonplace - why do we put more value on a bird egg than human life? they are both unborn!! It is a SICK mentality
2007-04-02 04:03:33 · answer #1 · answered by Dr. Linder 4 · 6⤊ 10⤋
Murder is a legal term that basically means "killing of another human being with either the intent to kill or the intent to do grievous bodily harm that a reasonably person would believe would likely result in death or with reckless disregard for life, and without excuse or justification."
Lots of killings of humans are not murder: accidents, justifiable homicides, self-defense, defense of others, most killings in wars, in some places defense of property, in some places capital punishment, in some places assisted suicide, etc. etc. etc.
In the case of abortion, traditionally, the unborn were not considered "human beings" until they were "quick." That was the law in the US for the longest time, until medical science allowed finer distinctions. Quickening did not occur until a few months into the pregnancy - i.e. a zygote was not a human being.
Most people are of the mind that the unborn are not human until they have a heartbeat and/or brainwaves. Obviously, reasonable minds can differ on this topic.
A second analysis entered the law with Roe v Wade - the rights of the mother. In R v. W, the analysis was not "is it human" - the analysis became "does the mother have the right to be free from state interference." Yes, she does - essentially she is free from state interference up to at least the end of the 3rd month of pregnancy. Human or not, she can do with it what she will.
There is a balancing test for state regulations in the second trimester that means some regulations will be permitted, but not wholesale bans. In the third trimester, the state may basically do away with abortions altogether, except in cases of life of the mother.
It's a complex issue, which is why it's still hotly debated. It's not as simple as you would like to make it.
2007-04-02 11:28:00 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
yeah when killthe mother the father rapist yeah is murder and cannt take away citzens rights with out due process of the law and your not citzen unless your bortn naturalized .
14 admendment states the following
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Afetus and embryo doesnt have such right !!!!!!!!!!
2007-04-02 11:59:05 · answer #3 · answered by pixiedraco2003666 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
a baby is not born...it is just a foetus....
its living n non-living should be dependant on the parent
what r u going to do with a baby u dont want? do u wanna drag it up ur life n let him be a burden? d'u want a baby who grows up n feels the hards of life when he learns about u?
i say NO!...anyway,whats the use of increasing population just like that?
if it is unplanned,then its not meant to be there...i dont think there is anything wrong with abortion AT ALL.....
its NOT murder...if u concieve an unplanned child liek that, u will be SPOILING the lives of many more people...so why do it?
the baby is living --true....BUT SO ARE TREES...U CUT THEM...SO SHOULD IT BE CALLED 'MURDER' ?
all the animals which we eat---'SHOULD WE CALL IT MURDER?
the rapist should be punished
the mom should learn n move on...n if she is not willing to learn--then she shoud be forced to learn the harder way
2007-04-02 11:11:40 · answer #4 · answered by catty 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
The lump of meat cannot even think. At that time it doesn't even have -instinct-. It isn't even on the same mental level as an ant.
Do you have any compunctions about stepping on worms or killing bacteria? That is the level that the small lump of developing flesh is at.
Consider that for a while.
Then consider that if it is not brought back to peace before time then it will be born into a world of suffering and strife... and that is quite aside from the knowledge that it was unwanted in the first place.
2007-04-02 11:03:20 · answer #5 · answered by Nihilist Templar 4 · 4⤊ 2⤋
You have no sense of morality whatsoever, do you?
The antiabortionists who insist the there is no difference between killing a human being and killing an embryo (or even a blob of stem cells or a fertilized egg...) can certainly not be trusted in positions requiring ethical decision-making.
When the antiabortion is prepared to drop the bait-and-switch (like your inane, dishonest response here to acid_zebra) and admit that there is a world of difference between an 8th-month abortion and one done in the first few weeks, maybe we can begin to work on this problem. As long as the anti-abortionists refuse to take that first step into honesty about the problem, the problem will persist.
It's entirely their fault that so many abortions are still done: all of the blood is on the anti-abortionists' hands. They would clearly rather have an issue than a solution.
2007-04-02 11:05:59 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 3⤋
Child - I'm assuming as a 15-year-old Christian you have probably not even thought about having sex yet. It's admirable you have a social conscience and want to do good - but your priorities and your "ethics" - let alone your knowledge - are so far out of wack that I can only feel you are doing more harm than good by this, even if the harm is only to yourself. You say you work in a homeless shelter (or something like that). That is good, do that, help people you can help. Stop messing around with stuff you don't understand and have no business talking about - OR learn from what you are being told here, there is some good stuff if you'd only listen.
2007-04-02 11:10:03 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
most abortions are done in the first trimester--none of which would be partial birth abortions.
i disagree with unnecessary abortions after the first trimester (by unnecessary i mean for non-medical reasons).
and you don't know anyone else's situation--you seem to think you know it all, but wake up. you don't. take biology, take health, do some research on it
it's different because the FETUS is not medically a 'baby' because it cannot survive outside the mother's body.
2007-04-02 11:11:22 · answer #8 · answered by Ember Halo 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
AGAIN, a blastula, a something without a central nervous system or a functioning brain is NOT a baby.
But killing a person that is already a part of society, with ties to other persons and a history as a form of punishment is a dumb idea. There is no chance of parole, ever, and mistakes WILL be made. How's that for 'killing innocents'?
2007-04-02 11:01:41 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 9⤊ 3⤋
why are you so concerned with what other people do with thier bodies? I think this constitutes as a nosy busybody that cant keep her paws off of other peoples buisness, If you dont want an abortion, fine dont have one, but dont take away other peoples rights just because YOU feel its wrong. that goes for homosexuality and practicing religions outside your own.
2007-04-02 11:12:09 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
When abortions are done, the baby is not a huan child yet. Killing an EMBRYO is ALOT different than killing a person.
2007-04-02 11:00:43 · answer #11 · answered by country_girl 6 · 7⤊ 3⤋