How can I get papers on a dog if the breeder said he had them but now he says he doesn't?

Question

My girlfriend got the puppy for me for christmas and the guy said that he sent off for them but later said he doesn't have them. By then is was too late. Now he won't answer the phone.

Answer 1

You've been duped. Report him to the Kennel Club. Do you like the dog? Does it matter if it doesn't have a proper pedigree?

Answer 2

I do understand that you feel it important to have the papers for your puppy, mostly because you must want piece of mind that you have a healthy well bred dog, that you paid for, Just wanted to say that! I am sure you love your puppy, but do tend to disagree with some comments from others that papers are irrelevent ( No harm meant)
My situation was slightly simular. I bought my dog from a breeder. I moved house a week later, the papers were sent to the old address, but never got them. The breeder had however had her eye tested and hip scored, and she had had her jabs, so was easy to retrieve all her details through the vet, then KC. Didn't know whether your pup had any contact with the vet before you got her? may be worth a try.
Good luck,

Answer 3

I can't say this enough and I say it every time but people still do it. I have said a millions of time do not I mean DO NOT ever buy a puppy with out the litter papers for the puppy. There is no excuse for any breeder not to have the little papers by the time they sale a puppy. If they don't then a red light should go off and you should never buy this puppy. AKC get these papers back to the owner in plenty of time I am sorry with out the litter papers there is nothing you can do.

Answer 4

You have been scammed. Your girlfriend has unfortunately handed over cash to an unscrupulous backyard breeder.

If they were advertised as coming with papers you could try reporting the breeder to the magazine or website you saw the advert in, and to the kennel club.

In the meantime, enjoy your dog. Train it and socialise it well. It's unlikely that the breeder you got the dog from will have done so, so you'll have some catching up to do. Speak to your vet about puppy classes.

Answer 5

If this is an AKC pup, unless she signed a contract with the breeder where the breeder said that he will supply the papers, you are out of luck. I now almost always have papers here when pups go. On my contract I have the sire and dams AKC registration numbers listed on the contract as well as the litter number. I will hold papers in certain situations, like if the pup is required to be spayed or neutered. The people still have the numbers and I also give a 4 generation pedigree with the pup. Once they have fullfilled the contract, then I send the papers to them. In other situations, the papers are given at the time of sale.

Also, we are not required by the AKC to give papers out on a pup in a litter! The breeder has the right to give Full AKC registration, Limited AKC registration or no papers at all.

Answer 6

There is no way to get them unless you get them from the breeder. Sorry.
When buying a purebred puppy one should always get the papers at the time of sale..if for some reason they are not available the buyer needs to get in writing the name and registration # of both parents, name ,address, phone number of breeder, when the litter registration was sent in, birth date of the litter and a date when the buyer can expect to receive the papers. If AKC the buyer can go to the AKC site and find out status of registration.

Answer 7

If your girlfriend didn't get anything in writing to say that the puppy would be registered, then there is nothing you can do. Think of it as buying a car - you wouldn't buy one without the registration documents would you?
No point in reporting him to the Kennel Club, if the puppies weren't registered then there's nothing they can do. If the litter was advertised as KC Reg., you could get in touch with your local Trading Standards & hopefully get some money back.

Answer 8

Check with the AKC, you have Registration numbers for the parents.
I am not sure about in the US, but in Canada, the registration papers belong w/ the dog. A breeder cannot withhold papers unless it is in a written agreement ie til the puppies is neutered/spayed. Papers should be sent to owners within 6 months.

If you bought a papered dog, you deserve to have a papered dog. It's not the point whether you are going to breed / show or anything else, You deserve to have the paperwork.

Answer 9

The breeder normally registers the litter and receives individual registration applications for each pup that the new owner is supposed to send in.

If you are referring to AKC papers:
If in fact the breeder registered the litter, the breeder, and only the breeder, can request a duplicate registration application.

Answer 10

Unfortunately I think your girlfriend did not buy a puppy from a reputable breeder. Chances are the parents are not registered. The only thing to do now is live and learn, besides unless your planning on showing or breeding you really don't need papers anyway. Please tell me your not planning on breeding your dog in the future? If it is really important you can petition AKC for an ILP # which means Indefinite Listing Privilege that way you can compete in obedience or agility trials.

Answer 11

You can write or call AKC and IF the man sold the dog as registered he HAS to hand papers over. If he doesn't have them and the sire and dam were both registered then he will have to register the litter if he hasn't done that, then he can order the AKC registration papers on each individual puppy. You may have to pay the fee to the AKC yourself on your own puppy (about $15 unless it has gone up) but he has to hand you the signed papers with his address ,the gender, color and markings of the puppy, date of birth, and sire and dam. You sign that and fill it out with pup's name , etc. then send it along with the fee to AKC and they will send your puppy's papers.
Most show breeders supply at least a 3 generation pedigree. If a pedigree is desired but you weren't supplied with one you can purchase this from AKC.