i cannot understand!!?

Question

atheists question the existence of god just because there is no proof. thats ok. but who said that god is logic??
thats what religion rely on: the fact that god cannot be within the bounds of reason!
why then they dispute god's existence??
let alone that facts are facts and have been written down...i mean historical facts.
did atheists ever try to read ( just read) the bible or understand religion without being stuck to their own ideas and prejudiced?
im not offending atheists and im not supporting religious ppl...just wanted to see what atheists believe thats all.
thanks for any serious answers

Answer 1

their logic changes daily anyway .. with the next issue of scientific american it will change again .. the logic has too many boundries to be complete ...

Answer 2

Actually, there is evidence that gods are man-made.

God isn't logic. God is superstition.

Religion claims that it is beyond reason, because they know that they have failed at the reason. It's a sour grapes argument, like when someone who loses their drivers license claims they wanted to walk anyway.

I've read the Bible and it doesn't have much historical facts. All of the stuff about Jesus, for example, was written decades after he died, if he existed at all. If I was stuck to my own ideas and prejudiced, I would still be a Christian.

For a more detailed answer, try reading Richard Dawkins' book, "The God Delusion". It is well written.

Answer 3

I've read the Bible 20 times from cover to cover (not including partial readings or focused readings). Of these, 12 were while I was a believer, 8 while not a believer.

The Bible contains numerous factual and historic errors.

Setting these aside and assuming they are errors caused by man's involvement in the writing, the deity the Bible describes is self-contradicting.

That levels a fairly huge penalty against it.

Besides, you're saying, "Since there is no proof he doesn't exist, or he cannot be contained by reason, he MUST exist!"

There is no proof that the Invisible Pink Unicorn doesn't exist, and since it's obvious an invisible and pink being cannot be contained by reason, the IPU must exist.

How is this any different from your claim?

Answer 4

um things written down aren't facts...i could type right here "Shamus Olarry is the hotest man on the Planet", and it won't be true. it will remain here as long as Y!A is on the internet, thus making it recorded history, but that doesn't make it a FACT. so just because people wrote down that the bible was how the universe came to be doesn't make it a fact either. why don't you people try to come up with an argument for non-believers that isn't based on the bible?!

BTW, most athiests who have a clue as to what they are talking about (that is to say, not the teenagers who change just to rebel) actually have read most of the bible. or they have heard pastors unwittingly cite the contridictions in the bible.

Answer 5

You say you are not supporting religious people but you are. You are not able to comprehend the concept of proof. Seriously, I can prove to you a tree exists because we can touch it, we can see it. Even though you cannot see air you can feel it blowing on you. What possible proof can you imagine that supports the existence of your God? In all these thousands of years of life on earth there is not one small piece of evidence you can see, feel, touch or taste to support the idea that God ever was. You should consider this and give it serious thought of the actual possibility that God does not exist. You don't belief in other Gods so why do you believe in your god?

Answer 6

First, to Jenny - I can see fog.

To the questioner - what historical facts are you referring to? I certainly hope you are not referring to the Bible as historical fact. This is a fictional book written to express the idea of God. Have YOU ever read the Bible without being stuck to your own ideas and prejudices? I am not trying to offend you, I just want to see where you are coming from, that's all.

Answer 7

Most Atheists I know have read the bible as well as other religious texts. History doesn't prove that God existed. Some Atheists used to be religious, so their "ideas and prejudices" were formed over time. Technically, Atheists don't have a belief system, so to have them tell you what they believe is a moot point.

Answer 8

Most atheists used to be religious. Most of us have read the bible, many of us went to religious schools. But we found nothing to make us believe there was a god. Sorry, but I'm not wasting my time and money and brain cells on something that is outside the bounds of nature. If it's there, we'll have some way of detecting it. If we can't, it's not there.

EDIT: Jenny - you can't see fog? Of course you can. As for the wind - we see it in weather maps. And we can feel it. You don't have to be able to 'see' everything - we have 4 other senses. But you do need to detect it somehow.

Answer 9

Most serious atheists have read the bible and/or other holy books. It's the inconsistencies and horror that that book contains that makes us question the concept of God.

For me personally there is absolutely no logical foundation for the validity of any religion given what we know about the world today. I prefer to have my eyes raised to the future rather than lowered to an ancient and fanciful collection of tales.

Answer 10

There's ALL kinds of PROOF that God exists in this world of ours today! Especially today with all the moving of the Spirit of God in His churches and followers. In the scientific and technological discoveries that point to the existence of an intelligent being who created the Universe. Just ask Stephen Hawking, who sits in the Lucasian chair at Cambridge U. that Isaac Newton once sat in who also believed in God! They just don't want to believe in a just and noble God, that they and ALL the rest of us will someday have to give an accounting of ourselves to Him! The saved when they die and go to Heaven(2 Cor. 5:8) and the unsaved at the Great White Throne judgment - Revelation 20: 11-15
The Bible tells us that many scoffers will come by the millions in the last days, more then ever before in the history of mankind, and because of their carnal, unrepentant nature, stubbornness, unbelief, loving the pleasures of the flesh, going after every wind of false doctrine(like atheism) even more then the God who reached out to save them, they won't 'heed sound doctrine' and that being in the Bible!

Answer 11

Which historical facts prove the existence of a god? Just curious.