Why would a god want child molesters to exist?

Question

If a god really exists then he must have made child molesters, just as he made everything else. It does no good to argue that this god doesn't want them to exist, because in a universe run by an omnipotent omniscient god, nothing could exist that he didn't want to exist (if he didn't want them to exist then he simply wouldn't allow it).

It does no good to argue that people choose to be that way rather than being made that way, because you'd have to already be immoral in order to choose to be a child molester.

It does no good to argue that an evil demon makes people behave that way because a god, being omnipotent and omniscient, must allow said evil demon to do so, and therefore it would still be that god's choice that child molesters exist.

Whichever way you look at it, this god would be responsible.

So, why would a god want child molesters to exist?

SeeTheLight: Didn't answer the question.

Piper: Doesn't answer the question.

Jan: Doesn't answer the question. Why does god want it to happen (he must want it to happen if he makes it happen or allows it to happen)?

fifimsp2: Quite. It's despicable that people would try to diminish someone's suffering like that.

arveen: Didn't answer the question.

kenshao: Doesn't answer the question. Why would a god want it to happen in the first place? Also infinite regression.

Chrissy: Doesn't answer the question. If it happens, god must want it to happen, or it wouldn't happen. Why?

Are all those ruined children's lives a price worth paying?

marisela: Didn't answer the question.

Brilliant: Yes, one valid answer would be that said god is evil or indifferent, and another answer is that no such god exists. Neither are much comfort to the theist.

believer: Didn't answer the question.

Nicole: So raped and murdered children are a price worth paying? I disagree.

Anthony: Invalid argument. If said god has free will and freely chooses never to do evil then being omnipotent he could have made us the same way, but chose not to. Still his responsibility, his choice, his intention.

Jesus: Not an answer.

Wookie: You said it yourself - god wills it to exist. Why?

Answer 1

He wouldn't. Having been a vitictim of abuse I really don't like that people brush it off by saying god had a plan, or he would never give you something you couldn't deal with. **** you. You try it and then brush it off.

Answer 2

Icarus. The universe creates infinit possibilites. It's inherent in it's nature. That unfathomable mix is an infinit number of chanes of cause and effect, laws of attraction, equal and opposite reaction and so on. Some where in that free will, or conscioussness, the ability for many but not fopr all, is mindfullness.

In that way of understanding there is no good or evil. However, that does not mean that at another level it does not exist. Things that appear to contradict one another can be true at the same time when they exist in different thought relationships. So in one understanding the fabric of the universe and say, Buddha nature, there is no good or evil and no defilement. All else is illusion.

Now when our consciousness is working within these illussions these things are real and it does matter how we exist in this rhelm. Perhapps God as you put it, wants the rest of us to learn why people like child molesters exist. What makes them tick and what could prevent these behaviors.

These are people that are the way they are for a reason. If they cannot carry themselves perhaps we have to until they can walk on their own. But we don't do that. We are statrting to, but we are not there yet.

In the mean time countless children are suffering grotesque crimes. This is a crime against humanity! Even one child is too many most of us I think would agree.

I think if we all were able to walk the sweet grass path, ways of love, understanding, wisdom, our societies would not be producing such a plague of this behavior. Then for those that still would continue we would be better prepared to deal with them productively.

Our instictive reactions to castrate them or just anyalate them won't stop more of them from being created.

Child molesters are not born. People become molestors through cause and effect. We are responsible for finding out the cause and changing that chain of events that creates the molestor.

I want society to evolve towards something healthier. I am agree. Abuse has touched the lives of those I love.

"Some may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one." John Lennon

Answer 3

*** Why would a god want child molesters to exist? ***

In reality Gods have not and can not be proved to actually exist. Most religious books if taken as fact do reveal that child abuse and the like was looked on as normal.

A God given injunction to keep " all the virgin women children alive for yourselves " speaks more to man' baser nature than it does to the skewed dictates of some God.

Moses and the others say they were just following orders or so they say. We should hesitate and reflect before we choose to stoop to blaming the victims for the barbarities loosed against them.

The Bible Numbers 31: 31
And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses.

The Bible Numbers 31: 15 - 19
And Moses said unto them, Have you saved all the women alive? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that has known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

That is disgusting for sure.

In reality the Gods have no control whatsoever over such vile actions. We must hold these supposed deities and their so-called representatives responsible.

Have a pleasant day.

Answer 4

Your arguments are illogical and incorrect. First, you completely disregard the true nature of what free-will is and the extent to which a person has freedom to make decisions under TRUE free-will. You also deny completely the outside influences of other beings in the earthly realm. You deny that individual human beings are responsible for their own actions. It is very similar to a murderer who claims that they are not to blame for shooting 8 people. He didn't make the gun or the bullets, he didn't put the people in line with the bullet, etc., etc., etc.

Every person IS responsible for their own actions. Every person CHOOSES what to believe, how to act, and whether or not they will accept the saving Grace of our Lord and Savior. You deny what you do not understand. Why do you not just put the parents of the child molester on trial, too? Isn't it their fault, the sick, distorted people do what they do?

You are right to the extent that if God doesn't will something to be than it won't exist. However, that doesn't remove the free-will and responsibility with which God has given every human being. Bad things happen because we live in a fallen, sinful world which is influenced by evil spiritual forces which people in general do not understand how to defend against.

Answer 5

the existence of Free Will demands the possibility that some will use Free Will to commit Evil.

If God gives you Free Will then when you choose to go against God's Will for your life and commit Evil YOU have sinned, not God.

Without Free Will there can be no genuine Love. Love must be a choice of the Will. So in order for Free Will and Love to exist we must accept that some will make bad choices and commit Evil.

Answer 6

he doesnt'. Remember the old testament, you sinned and you died. Then take into acct. that without evil you can never know good. Its a horrible thing, and all molesters or those who commit crimes against children will face their judgement day. But as for now it is up to us as a society to deal with them ourselves. Ie..justice system, etc.. God helps those who help themselves. Just because a person has an urge, whether by defect or what not, that doesn't mean they need to act upon it. That is where they make the choice. They chose to give into those urges and molest children. They chose not to get help. They chose to hurt the innocent. So yes molesting children is a choice.

reply to your add. comments: Actually I did answer the question. God doesn't want them to exist. But, there is evil in the world. That he Cannot always control. So he must depend upon us to deal with it.
He gave us free will. That is all there is to it. To molest a child is a molester using his will. God can't punish them for that until they are dead. Regardless Molesting a child is a CHOICE.

Answer 7

Well it's a reason for why I believe in karma, if you molest a child (which you are free to do because of Gods given free will, etc [God doesn't want there to be atheists either, but because of free will he can't stop you from doing what you choose to do]), in your next life you shall be molested in your childhood.. There are a good few sickos out there so the cycle continues.. In order to balance out the molesters, there need to be other molesters if you understand me.

Sorry for not being very clear, to elaborate a little more, one could say that God is in charge of regulating karma, making sure that everything balances out, now he does it so balance will remain in the universe, and so the 'good-doers' will be protected from randomly evil things happening to them, but in order to do this he has to permit those who do wrong to endure that same evil upon themselves (it purifies them of the original negative deed), so if there are people capable of child molestation, then child molesters need to exist. God wouldn't want it because he hates the sin, but he can see it's necessary (so it 'purifies' the original evil), leaving the victim with less bad karma (and being more likely to go to heaven after s/he dies), this is also why murderers, theives, rapists, liars, kidnappers etc all exist

The people who do those horrible actions (because of their own choices), run a much greater risk of being reborn in hell after death.

Answer 8

Child molesters, like every other deviant behavior, is the result of Sin and separation from God. He did not create these people to indulge in these lifestyles, they chose them because they have free will. You can't blame God for that. Instead, you should use these things as proof we need God.

Answer 9

certain, God's vengeance will all come at one time on the day of judgment, this question is an similar as why doe's God enable ministers to change into fat cats and rip human beings off of their possibilities, some get uncovered now and for those that damage out with it now pays later, pay me now or pay me later!

Answer 10

You may have heard the old saying that "God hates the sin but loves the sinner"—and it's true. If it weren't, none of us would have any hope. The Bible says, "While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8).

This means God loves even the worst sinner—hard as that is for us to understand. That doesn't mean He overlooks their evil or pretends it isn't serious—not at all. Their sin is so serious that only one remedy could be found to wipe it away: the blood of God's dear Son, Jesus Christ. He was absolutely pure, but on the cross all our sins were placed on Him, and He took the terrible penalty we deserved. This is why the Bible says, "The blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin" (1 John 1:7).

Whenever I think of people who did great evil, I think of Saul of Tarsus. He was absolutely opposed to the Christian faith and did everything possible to stamp out Jesus' followers. The Bible says he was constantly "breathing out murderous threats against the Lord's disciples" (Acts 9:1).

But God changed his heart, and Saul was converted to Christ. He became the Apostle Paul, and spent the rest of his life urging others to give their lives to Christ. God can change even the worst person, and we should pray He will. But most of all, He can change our lives, and He will as we yield ourselves to Christ.