Where (exactly) in the Bible (chapter and verse), is the description of Satans rebellion against God in heaven, and Satan's subsequent downfall from Heaven?
Is it true that any acount found in Isaiah is metaphorical, and does not specifically mention Satan or his rebellion? Is it true that the account found in Revelation only PREDICTS this rebellion (which hurts my head to think about)?
2007-03-30
17:08:59
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So far, there's been no clear cut answer in any of the answers I've read.
The verses mentioned are gibberish, and don't tell of the downfall of Satan at all.
2007-03-30
17:25:48 ·
update #1
Relelations 12 only speaks to the end days, and of events yet to transpire, right?
2007-03-30
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update #2
Satan is only implied in Isaiah because a certain kind of Christian needs Satan to be implied. Christianity is a religion built on threats rather than the Gentle Rebbe's promises ands words.
There is more money in it for the shouters if they have terrible threats. That is why the translators of the New Testament took every chance to change Sheol and any word speaking to the concept of evil to the useful scary words Hell and Satan.
2007-03-30 17:28:26
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answered by Terry 7
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Genesis Chapter 3, verses 14-15
And Revelation Chapters 12 through 20.
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2007-03-30 17:13:24
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answered by Peace2U 2
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Revelation 12:7 Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, 8 but he was defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world--he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. 11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death.
Revelation 20:10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
2007-03-30 17:24:05
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answer #3
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answered by Martin S 7
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Read it for yourself:
Isaiah 14:12-15
Ezekiel 28:11-19
As for Revelation 12:7-9 and Revelation 20:1-3,7-10; these are future events.
2007-03-30 17:14:38
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answered by wefmeister 7
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Isa 14:12-16
2007-03-30 17:11:36
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answered by Anonymous
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2016-11-25 01:17:12
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answered by Anonymous
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But, the above verses don't really mention Satan. Isaiah talks of the Morning Star. the Ezekial passage doesn't mention anything about Satan, Lucifer, or the morning star.
2007-03-30 17:20:23
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answered by ? 5
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Genesis. Start on the first page and begin reading.
2007-03-30 17:11:54
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answered by Anonymous
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Satan is said to resemble the King of Tyre in this reference--with similar traits
(Ezekiel 28:11-15) “11 And the word of Jehovah continued to occur to me, saying: 12 “Son of man, lift up a dirge concerning the king of Tyre, and you must say to him, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “‘“You are sealing up a pattern, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13 In E´den, the garden of God, you proved to be. Every precious stone was your covering, ruby, topaz and jasper; chrys´o·lite, onyx and jade; sapphire, turquoise and emerald; and of gold was the workmanship of your settings and your sockets in you. In the day of your being created they were made ready. 14 You are the anointed cherub that is covering, and I have set you. On the holy mountain of God you proved to be. In the midst of fiery stones you walked about. 15 You were faultless in your ways from the day of your being created until unrighteousness was found in you.”......16
SATAN is connected in this commentary
** it-2 p. 604 Perfection ***
The first sinner (Satan) and the king of Tyre. Human sin and imperfection were, of course, preceded by sin and imperfection in the spirit realm, as Jesus’ words at John 8:44 and the account in chapter 3 of Genesis reveal. The dirge recorded at Ezekiel 28:12-19, though directed to the human “king of Tyre,” evidently parallels the course taken by the spirit son of God who first sinned. The pride of “the king of Tyre,” his making himself ‘a god,’ his being called a “cherub,” and the reference to “Eden, the garden of God,” certainly correspond to Biblical information concerning Satan the Devil, who became puffed up with pride, is linked to the serpent in Eden, and is called “the god of this system of things.”—1Ti 3:6; Ge 3:1-5, 14, 15; Re 12:9; 2Co 4:4.
The anonymous king of Tyre, residing in the city claiming to be “perfect in prettiness,” was himself “full of wisdom and perfect [adjective related to Heb. ka·lal´] in beauty,” and “faultless [Heb., ta·mim´]” in his ways from his creation onward until unrighteousness was found in him. (Eze 27:3; 28:12, 15)
The Bible and its account do not present metphorical accounts, except if the above is what you are referring to, IT indeed would have to be very obvious.
Isaiah wrote clear truths prophecies with well identified persons, places and situations & with straightforward language.
AS far as the reference in Revelation which texts are you referring to?
2007-03-30 17:27:18
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answered by THA 5
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