ATHEISTS:WHAT if YOU .......??

Question

hey dears

Suppose you found a watch in the middle of the desert. What would you conclude? Would you think someone dad dropped the watch? Or would you suppose that the watch came by itself? Of course, no sane person would say the watch just happened to emerge from the sand.

All the intricate working parts could not simply develop from the metals that lay buried in the earth. The watch must have a manufacturer. If a watch tells an accurate time, we expect the manufacturer must be intelligent. Blind chance cannot produce a working watch. But what else tells accurate time? Consider the sunrise and the sunset. Their timings are so strictly regulated that scientistscan publish in advance the sunrise and sunset times in your daily newspaper, but who regulated the timings of sunrise and sunset? If a watch cannot work without an intelligent maker, how can the sun appear to rise and set with such clockwork regularity? Could this occur by itself? Consider also that we benefit from the sun only because it remains at a safe distance from the earth.



A distances that averages 93 million miles. If it get much closer, the earth would burn up. And if it got too far away, the earth would turn into an icy planet making human life here impossible. Who decided in advance that this was the right distance? Could it just happen by chance. Withuot the sun, plants would not grow. Then animals and humans wouls starve. Did the sun just decide to be there for us? We need to experience sunrise. We need the sun energy and its light to see our way during the day. But we also need sunset. We need a break for the heat, we need the cool of the night and we need the lights to go out so we may sleep. Who regulated this process to provide what we need?



Moreover, if we had only the warmth of the sun and the protection of the atmosphere we would want something more-beauty. Our clothes provide warmth and protection, yet we design them also to look beautiful/knowing our need for beauty, the designer of the sunrise and the sunset also made the view of them to be simply breathtaking. The Creator who gave us light, energy, protection and beauty deserves our thanks. Yet some people insist that He does not exist. What would they think if they a watch in the desert? An accurate and working watch? A beautiful designed watch? Would they not conclude that there does exist a watchmaker. One who apperciates beauty. Such is God who made us.

just serious answers please!!

Answer 1

What is atheism have to do with creationism, can't creation and evolution go hand in hand. No evolutions believe an inanimate object like a watch would appear to have formed from mutations of base metals and glass. Now a living creature in the sane, might make a different answer.

Answer 2

Paley's design argument, eh?

First off, it is wrong and far too simplistic to compare the universe to watch. The universe has no obvious purpose other than to exist, and the universe, unlike a watch in the desert, could have come about by chance, there is no need for a designer.

Lets for a moment imagine that the universe does point to a designer, then what does the universe say about that designer? The world is not a perfect place, there is pain, famine and suffering. J.S. Mill thought the world's imperfections would mean that the designer would either have to be not all-good, or not all-powerful. Hume thought that the world could point to a trainee God, or a series of Gods, or Gods totally unlike the Christian God.

Lastly, what about evolution? If a designer created such a perfect universe and creatures in the first place, why would there be a need for the survival of the fittest?

Answer 3

In the beginning was the bong and the bong was with God. God was bored so created Heaven and Earth but it was not enough to relieve the Almighty Boredom - so God threw in a handful of stars and contemplated infinity without toys. Perfect symmetry surrounded God - harmony in the universe like an intricately balanced sphere. Thank the Almighty Ego that God was God - it was all too perfect: where was the adventure? Then he said "Let there be lighter, and the clipper was born". So next time you are in the desert and find a clipper. A beautiful designed lighter? Would they not conclude that there does exist a lightermaker. One who apperciates beauty. Such is God who made us.

Answer 4

This is a short but serious answer.

Your so called god's existence proof has been posted before. One interesting thing is that you use the distance between the sun and the earth as the proof for intelligent design. Did your god tell you that in his inspired book? No. Scientist found that. There are billions and billions of stars in the universe, what's the chance of finding another solar system? Will you come back and feed us more intelligent design THEORY?

Don't fit your god inspired proof around scientific discovery, come right out to make a 100% foolproof prediction, that will be a big miracle.

Answer 5

Dear Anno,

Why do smart people ask such dumb questions? If I came across a watch in the desert (an accurate, working, beautifully designed watch, as you say) I'd assume that, yes, someone dropped the watch. Probably someone wealthy, who could afford such a watch, and who wouldn't much care if it was lost while they were gallavanting around the desert. And I would know that person was one of billions and billions of people created from the random mutation of genetic material, after the earth was formed from molten material more than 4.55 billion years ago. This person would be part of an ongoing evolutionary process of nature, a nature that is both beautiful and harsh. Such is the universe that made us.

All in all, it makes your watch seem kind of insignificant - doesn't it.

Answer 6

A watch is clearly made by a watch maker, it's man made. However, if I saw a tree, I wouldn't conclude it has been made by a designer. There's a difference between manufactured goods and nature.

Timings of the sun rise/set are accurate because laws of physics stay constant, and through experimentation we have accurately modelled those laws, and can use them to predict what will happen in the future.

We live in an environment suitable for our life BECAUSE it's suitable. Life could exist here, so it has. Our existance is the result, not the cause.

Answer 7

Dear Anno,

What are you trying to say? All these rattling for nothing?

Are you asking a question or writing an essay for your primary school homework? Any school kid can tell you a watch is not equal to a human being. That analogy is flawed from the the 1st sentence.

Note : You mentioned no sane person will think the watch just happen to emerge from the sand, I understand you are trying to say god create human. But then with the same analogy, is it sane to say god emerge from nowhere? Don't give the higher power thing and hence he can be there from nowhere, it will defeat everything you wrote here. If there is a creator theory, then you should cater for, who create the so called creator and who creator's creator ..... etc etc

Answer 8

Interesting enough, I haven't seen this argument before. The only thing that sends up a red flag in my mind is the issue about the earth's distance from the sun.

Because the whole galaxy is getting pulled into the sun's gravity slowly and we're all going to burn up, or the sun will become a supernova and wipe us all out! x.x *shakes fist at sun*

We're not going to stay in this one spot in the universe forever.

Answer 9

I would say the spirits of the desert placed the watch where I would find it. They know that I can use the watch as a simple compass, and thus, navigate my way to the next oasis.

All this nonsense of spontaneous creation, or mysterious watchmakers is just that, nonsense.

Open your eyes to the truth.
MY truth.

And why shouldn't I say that? You offer me nothing but your truth, which is only true to you.
Can I not think of an explanation for myself?

And, no, for about the millionth time, I'm not an atheist.
I don't see that my beliefs or lack thereof should place abitrary barriers over which questions I may or may not answer in an open forum.

Answer 10

Do the sun and moon know what time is? Do they care that we use them to measure the passage of our lives? Does the air exist just so we can breathe it? Does the world know we find it beautiful? No. The sun and moon do what they do because of the physical process of gravitation. The air exists because gases are mixed within the atmosphere of the planet, and we evolved the equipment to make use fo that particular mixture of gases. Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder and there is no fundamental standard of what it means, so it only exists if we believe it is there, and we are conditioned early in our lives to recognise some things as beautiful and some as ugly. And a watch in the desert would be the result of clumsiness by a creature equal to but no greater than us.