for those of you who believe in hell?

Question

how can you worship a god that allows hell to exist? no one deserves to suffer forever. that is infinite punishment. no one could possibly be evil enough to deserve infinite punishment. thats incredibly sadistic.

Answer 1

Sin is “any want of conformity unto or transgression of the law of God” (1Jo_3:4; Rom_4:15), in the inward state and habit of the soul, as well as in the outward conduct of the life, whether by omission or commission (Rom_6:12-17; Rom_7:5-24). Sin is not a mere violation of the law of our constitution, nor of the system of things, but an offense against a personal lawgiver and moral governor who vindicates his law with penalties.

God forgives all sins except the one sin that denies Him. This sin ascribes to God what Satan has done, in that a person blasphemes the Spirit God that has been sent to call a person to righteousness. By saying with full knowledge "I do not believe", a person has in effect participated in the very first lie told in Eden.

Some will argue that God is unfair to judge those, including non-believers, that have tried to live a good life. Using an argument of "fairness" ignores the perfect attributes of God and lacks an understanding of the philosophical arguments of perfection.

In order to understand why just being "good" is insufficient; you would need to understand the concept of a perfectly holy and righteous being. Such a being would hate ALL sin and would be bound by the being's perfectly just nature to render judgment for the unjust. Just as we expect justice in this world, albeit imperfect at times, so does this being, God. Fortunately, a perfect being like God will render perfect justice, too.

While it is hard to hear, there are none righteous in the perfect God's eyes.

So how is a perfect God's demand for justice for sin reconciled with our own imperfections? Here we find that God came up with a perfect solution. He became flesh, lived a perfect life, and acted as our representative in God the Father's court of justice. There He was judged and crucified, carrying all the past and future world's sins with his crucifixion. God the Son, Christ, became our sin bearer and we need only acknowledge that sacrifice to be made "justified" in God's eyes and in God's demand for justice for sin.

Think of it this way. Your son does something like breaking a neighbor's window. Yet your son is too young to be made to pay for his crime. Society demands that the parent then act in the son's role and pay for these crimes. Likewise, God the Father allows God the Son to be humankind's representative. Christ paid the price for us all; it is deposited there in the justice bank of God. We need only claim our "share" of that account's balance and present ourselves to God.

In summary, a perfectly just being, God the Father, requires that sin be punished. In the Old Testament, such punishments were the slaughter of an innocent animal, accompanied by prayers of adoration and contrition to God the Father. These lawful rituals drove home the point to mankind that there are consequences for bad behaviors. These lawful rituals also foreshadowed a more significant means of reconciliation before God the Father’s demand for justice. A perfect being, Christ, willingly went to His death. A perfectly just God the Father, knows that the Son’s death is not justice, for the Son was sinless. Therefore, the perfectly just God the Father credits anyone who will claim the Son’s death as payment for their sins.

As for the doctrine of hell consider the following:

1. Wouldn't everyone repent when faced with hell?
2. Would God let out people who repented?
3. Why was Hell created?

One argument against hell is this: No person in his right mind would choose eternal punishment in hell over heaven. Therefore everyone would repent when sent to hell. If God lets the repentant leave, hell will be empty (and therefore can be disregarded). If God doesn't let the repentant leave, God is unjust for continuing to punish them after they've repented.

The trouble with this line of reasoning is that repentance is not simply a matter of one saying, "Okay, I'll say whatever you want me to, just get me out of here!" Repentance involves acknowledging one's guilt, feeling remorse and the desire to change one's behavior, accepting Christ's sacrifice as substitutionary punishment for one's wrongs and agreeing to love and obey God (including Christ as God the Son). This includes by definition acceptance of eternal punishment in hell as just punishment for one's sins; while the skeptic may still object that continued punishment of the repentant is unjust, the repentant will respond that their continued punishment is deserved and could only end through God's mercy.

However, in reality people in hell won't repent, in particular not any skeptic who makes the above argument. If one thinks God is unjust for punishing people in hell, actually going there isn't going to make one suddenly decide that God is just and deserves one's love and worship after all. People are given their entire lives on Earth as an opportunity to repent and accept God; if they refuse each day of their lives to repent and believe they're justified in doing so, it's hardly conceivable that punishment in hell would change their minds. In other words, the gates of hell are actually locked from the inside.

Since hell is comprised of those who would never repent, the second question, “Would God let out people who repented?” is only a hypothetical one; it could be argued either way. In practice, someone who would repent in hell would be given the opportunity to repent on Earth and would presumably repent before they died, not after.

As for eternal punishment for finite life of sin, the answer is that our sin bears an eternal consequence because it is ultimately against an eternal God. When King David committed the sins of adultery and murder he stated, Against you, you only, have I sinned and done what is evil in your sight (Psalm 51:4). David had sinned against Bathsheba and Uriah, how could David claim to have only sinned against God? David understood that all sin is ultimately against God. God is an eternal and infinite Being. As a result, all sin is worthy of an eternal punishment.

An earthly example of this would be comparing attacking your neighbor and attacking the President of the United States. Yes, both are crimes, but attacking the President would result in far greater consequences. How much more does sin against a holy and infinite God warrant a terrible consequence?

In short, hell and heaven were created out of God's love for mankind as a consequence of free will. God could not have created a morally free creature who could not possess the potentiality to choose to sin. God, being perfectly righteous will righteously respect the choices a person makes and grant them the eternal life they sought through the exercise of their own free will. In short, we choose the behavior, and thus we have chosen the consequences.

Answer 2

Romans eight, "there's now no condemnation for many who are in Christ Jesus." The query is, might anybody who relatively believes that the second they die they are going to be with the Lord honestly kill themselves figuring out that the second they do they are going to have got to seem Jesus within the eye. I can not think any one relatively believing in Jesus doing this kind of factor however then grief and sorrow can also be so overwhelming within the second that every one else is forgotten within the want to flee, no longer realising that given time all matters can also be coped with and existence turns into valued at residing once more. Suicide is a everlasting option to a transitority predicament - if you're considering suicide then you wish to have instantaneous aid from a health practitioner, counsellor, Pastor, Chaplain and household and peers - don't sit down and mull over those ideas as they're your enemy and no longer the desire of God for you. If you can not suppose of who to touch then seem within the cell booklet or google the quantity of a aid line and they are going to advisor you from there. I've recognized households which have been torn aside through the egocentric act of suicide and it factors a lot anger and bitterness or even hatred closer to the person who died considering the fact that of the senselessness of all of it and their helpless suffering.

Answer 3

Hell is not forever. There have been mistranslations in the Bible. The words, Forever, eternal, everlasting, should NEVER have been translated that way from the Greek. They give the false impression that Our Loving God hands out eternal punishment when He does not. The truth is, God will one day restore all things. "For as in Adam ALL die, so also in Christ, ALL will be made alive" 1 Cor 15:22


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Answer 4

Let me ask YOU a question. If you die and find yourself standing in front of God and He tells you that He is in fact Perfectly Good, and yet, Hell still exists. What are you going to say? I assume that you are smart enough to realize that it is impossible that God could be WRONG and for YOU to be right. Obviously YOUR idea of "GOOD" has been corrupted. The reason it has been corrupted is you do not realize how serious SIN actually is. If Sin is so bad that it demands the existence of Hell and God having to send His own Son to die, then it must be pretty serious. But He has provided a way out for all who want to accept it. It is NOT His fault if you CHOOSE to reject that way. After all, there is NO serious logical reason for rejecting His Son. It costs you NOTHING....theBerean

Answer 5

It is not that 'somebody' suffers. God has taken on various roles in this world as a sinner, a saint, an atheist etc. All roles are dawn by Him only. The suffering you attribute belong to the ignorant self 'i' which feels it is separate from the rest. To tell you by an example; Ocean, its waves, and the foam are outwardly seems to be different. But all are basically water only. The rise and fall of waves, the foams etc can be compared to individuals and the collective is Ocean. Hope you got the basic principle.

Answer 6

Sorry Jason, but your view of what is right, or wrong is not shared by God. He made the rules, it is our place to obey them. He has given us the opportunity to do things His way. If we persist in doing things as we think they should be done, then it is by our choice that we suffer. God does not have the desire to send anyone to Hell. It was made just for Satan and his followers. That said, if a person rejects God, then he accepts the punishment that goes with it. God sends no one to Hell, people choose to go there. Have you?

Answer 7

Dear Friend,

Interesting question, you are right. That is because hell in the eternal suffering in Hellfire is a man-made teaching and has no Biblical basis. The bible infers Hell as eternal seperation from God.

Hell, The Bible terms it as the second death in the book of Revalation, from which there is no resurrection, i.e anyone going here would simply cease to exist. The Bible often refers to this as Sheol which means covered. It also refers to it as Gehenna, this was a valley outside Jerusalem where refuse and waste was dumped and burned, and very often the bodys of the diseased dead were dumped here. Suplher was put on the flames to keep it burning. This is where in the main the false teaching of Hell in the 'firey' sense came from.

Let us now consider what the scripture say regarding the location of Satan:

Revelation 12:9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Job1:Job's First Test
6 One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan [b] also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"
Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the EARTH and going back and forth in it."

Luke 4:5The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7So if you worship me, it will all be yours."

This clearly stated that satan was hurled to earth, was going to and fro on the earth and had been given authority on the earth, and also it states that he is misleading the whole planet, (false religion) Think of all the evil that men do, doesn't this make sense!

So in a nut shell, hell as it is thought of is not a teaching of the Bible but of Man, as is the Trinity, I urge you to investigate these things for yourself.

God Bless

Answer 8

It ultimately is your choice. I believe very few people are going to go to Hell, and they will only do so once they have perfect knowledge of God existing and Jesus existing, but still refuse to be with them.

Answer 9

no. If you choose to not choose God then you are automatically choosing Satan because that is the only other choice. Besides why do people decide they do not want to be with God other than misunderstanding God and/or truly hating God?

Answer 10

It seems... God is being mistaken for someone having the form of a human being and controlling the system built by it. God Almighty is different from man gods like Mahavira, Gautama Buddha, Jesus Christ and Prophet Mohammed. How?

When God Almighty created the Cosmos with a big bang... all souls atmans in the Cosmos scattered all over. These souls atmans in order to purify themselves (of the impurities gained on cosmic travel) needed to manifest a body on a planet that was conducive for germination.

Mother Earth in the solar system is one such planet. But to manifest a body on Mother Earth matching parents are necessary. As per the doctrine of karma if matching parents are not available then this soul atman remains in hibernation either in heaven or hell!

In heaven... when it has a positive balance of karma and hell when the balance of karma is negative! All is the result of a system that cannot err. The whole process is automatic... rather computerized! God Almighty never interferes in his creation. It has always been a Dhrista (onlooker).

God Almighty... a source of pure energy is formless. Ever since the beginning of time God Almighty has always remained aloof from his creation. Whether our soul gets heaven or hell is dependent upon the karma performed by one.

Our soul atman is sandwiched between impurities. To free itself of impurities it manifests a body again and again. God Almighty does not punish anyone... we get punished for our follies... for the mistakes committed by us as a human being. Our soul atman within our heart is as pure as God Almighty.

In the domain of God if one manifests the body of a human being at number 40 and the residual balance of karma reduces to number 39 (owing to sins committed in present life)... it is likely that one manifests the body of a lower form, an animal in next life! Here also God is not at play. All is the result of the karma performed by an individual.

Every human being reaches the kingdom of God (abode of God) by gaining enlightenment and reaching the stage of salvation (aka moksha in Hinduism). This is the only connection one has with God Almighty. Ever since our soul atman started on its cosmic journey... it has to manifest a maximum of 8.4 million life cycles (an earthly abode of 96.4 million years)... a long journey indeed!

Mahavira did that and so did Gautama Buddha. Followed him Jesus Christ and Prophet Mohammed! All were enlightened souls... man gods... human gods who reached the abode of God (kingdom of God) in their lifetime. More on hell - http://www.godrealized.org/swarga_naraka_and_dharti.html

Answer 11

Very simple: There is a revelation documented by the bible. You can believe it or not. If you believe it, you will find hell within its pages.