An Atheist Mason!!!!!!!!!?

Question

Can an Atheist become a FreeMason? or are they strict about the "god stuff".

Answer 1

You must proclaim that you believe in a supreme being. It doesn't have to be the christian god, just a god.

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Concerning Zero Cool's answer. There seems to be a growing trend/ interest in the "Old Secret Societies". Books like the Da Vinci Code should likely be credited for this new "fad". I say fad because, knowing the "fast food" society we live in, people will lose interest in them as quickly as the gained interest in them.

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In the answer below, it talked about all the "sorcerers" in Masonic Lodges. It also asked "would you want to be associated with those people?".

What is interesting is the fact that most of our founding fathers were Masons. Yet, people like the person below will gladly state that our founding fathers intended to build a christian nation. Even when it is know that they were a part of a society that many christians link to sorcery and the occult. So, I need to know, which is it? Surely it can't be both.

Answer 2

Freemasonery requires a belief in a higher power in the first initiation right. However, Free Masons are more secular now in modern times, so you might be able to get in. If you are curious go to your local Masonic Lodge and ask them about this. They may, they may not, kind of depends on the person.

Answer 3

I have a friend that is joining the Masons apparently they require an oath that you believe in a divine creator of some kind.

Even as a Theist I find that distasteful. If your group is about community service (which is what the masons claim to be) then what dose it matter what your personal beliefs are?

Answer 4

I do believe that they expect you to believe in a higher power but that the definition is very broad as to what that means. I do believe that if you were to accept Chaos theory and believe it a driving force in the universe, it is close enough. (There is always the FSM)

The Freemasons are not a Christian organization and don't really care if you do or don't, there is part of the initiation rituals that ask you to but its not like you have to sign something in blood.

Answer 5

What is with the freemasonry obsession lately?

Answer 6

Good question!

Read this:

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"
Gal. 4:16



The Witchcraft Side of Masonry


Issue Date: March/April 1997

By William Schnoebelen

There is something about the Lodge that has always attracted sorcerers. The list of occultists and witches in the last century who were Freemasons reads like a Who's Who of 20th century occultism:

Arthur Edward Waite - occult writer and Masonic historian.
Dr. Wynn Westcott - member of the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia and founding member of the occult Order of the Golden Dawn.
S. L. MacGregor Mathers - co-founder of the Golden Dawn.
Aleister Crowley - master satanist of this century and founder of the anti-christ religion of Thelema.
Dr. Gerard Encaussé - (Papus) masterful author, teacher of the Tarot and leader of the occult Martinistes society.
Dr. Theodore Reuss - head of the O.T.O., a German occult/satanic society which made Crowley its head for the British Isles.
George Pickingill - the master warlock (male witch) of 19th century England, leader of the "Pickingill covens."
Annie Besant - leader of the occult Theosophical society and Co-Masonic hierarch. (Yes, there are female Masons!)
Alice Bailey - founder of the New Age organization, Lucis (formerly Lucifer) Trust.
Bishop C. W. Leadbetter - Theosophist, mentor to the failed New Age "Christ", Krishnamurti, and prelate in the occult Liberal Catholic Church.
Manly P. Hall - Rosicrucian adept, author, founder of the Philosophical Research Society.
Gerald B. Gardner - founder of the modern Wiccan (white Witchcraft) revival.
Alex Sanders - self-styled "King of the Witches" in London and one of the most influential leaders of Wicca after Gardner.

Would you really wish to belong to an organization which welcomed these powerful sorcerers into its midst with open arms?


The Mason is "unequally yoked" together with all these unbelievers and witches in rebellion to the Word of God (II Corinthians 6:14-18). That alone is enough to knock the spiritual stuffing out of any man!

Masonry: Beyond the Light Author: William and Sharon Schnoebelen

Who Is Masonry's God?
Just Write Your Own Label




Issue Date: November/December 1999

© 1991 by William Schnoebelen
Reproduced by permission
from Masonry: Beyond The Light



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You can tell a great deal about a religion by its god, and this is one of the central questions which must be analyzed in comparing Free-masonry with Christianity. Does the "God" of Free-masonry resemble the God of the Bible?

It is difficult to learn the name of the deity of Masonry, since it is a closely guarded secret! To outsiders, the god of the Lodge is usually referred to as "The Great Architect of the Universe" (or T.G.A.O.T.U.). That sounds alright, if a bit vague. This is, sadly, exactly how it is intended to sound.

The blandness of the titles of the Masonry's god diminishes as the degrees climb. As in most secret societies, the revealed material gets more bizarre as you get further into the club. As an example, in the first prayer the candidate hears, deity is addressed as "Almighty Father of the Universe." Throughout the lower degrees, the deity is addressed either as "God" (as when the candidate swears his oath by saying, "so help me God…", or as T...G...A...O...T...U...

As one progresses higher into the degrees, the nature of God begins to take on a less soothing quality. The closest description I can think of is generic foods in the supermarket. The god of Masonry is a "generic" god. His label is blank, so if you want to write in Allah or Krishna or even Satan, you could do so and no Mason could possibly object.

This is obviously "God-to-the-lowest-common-denominator." The Masonic authority, Albert Mackey put it this way:

"Be assured, that God is equally present with the pious Hindu in the temple, the Jew in the synagogue, the Mohammedan in the mosque, and the Christian in the church."

One could just as logically add to Mackey's thought by saying that this "god" is equally present to the satanist in his coven as he cuts the heart out of a child.

Lest the Mason think that such a statement is absurd, let us see just how discriminating the authorities are about the nature of the god they worship. Henry W. Coil, the most highly regarded Masonic scholar states:

The Masonic test is a Supreme Being and any qualification added is an innovation. Monotheism has been espoused as the sole religious dogma of Free-masonry by some authors. This obviously violates Masonic principles, for it requires belief in a specific kind of supreme deity.

Thus, if you tell the satanist that he cannot be a Mason because his supreme being, the devil, isn't up to snuff, you are in violation of "Masonic principles."

When I applied for Lodge membership, I was a witch, and attended an Episcopal church.

I was stupid enough to think the witch god, Lucifer, was the Supreme Being, the father of Jesus. So when two Masons came calling to check me out as a candidate, and asked me if I believed in God, I said yes, without hesitation, knowing that my god was Lucifer.

I was welcomed into the Lodge with open arms, and remained there for nine years. During that time none of my "Christian brothers" ever witnessed to me about Jesus. That would have been bad Masonic etiquette!

After a couple of years, I met two high ranking Masons who were also worshippers of Lucifer. One was a famous ritualist in the York Rite, and one was a Master of a Lodge.

This generic god is obviously a god with whom everyone can be comfortable, except Bible believers! He is a god who offends no one. However, is this broad-minded "man upstairs" the right God, the Biblical God?

The God of the Judeo-Christian heritage is not some blank slate upon which you can trace the form of whatever idol you like. He is very clearly described in the Bible. From Mt. Sinai, He thunders:

"I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me" (Exodus 20:2-3)

Two thinks to note:

It's not uncommon for a person to be into satanism and proclaim himself/herself to be an atheist.

Also: The catholic church and islam are very strong supporters of the lodge. Some of the highest ranking officals in the catholic church are members. And, there are plenty of Southern Baptist in it as well. But I'm no longer a Southern Baptist:) I'm now Ind-Baptist

Answer 7

No, you MUST believe in God or it's all meaningless