Is Yaweh a moral agent?

Question

A moral agent is something that can affect other moral agents. Ethics are derived from the reactions between moral agents.

If god is amoral then it is fit to say that it's possible he could be the arbiter of morality.

The god of the Bible, Yaweh, certainly appears to be a moral agent.

It does not follow that such a god could be fit to govern over all matters of morality since such a being would be involved in moral issues.

Randy: Did you even read the whole question?

Answer 1

Sorry, there seems to be something missing from your argument, because you never explained why you feel that Yahweh would not be fit to govern all matters of morality.

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Yes I did. Here is the part that doesn't make sense:

(1) "If god is amoral then it is fit to say that it's possible he could be the arbiter of morality"


(2) "It does not follow that such a god could be fit to govern over all matters of morality since such a being would be involved in moral issues."

How does statement (1) not contradict statement (2)? You say that an "amoral" God IS fit to arbitrate morality in (1), and then you say that an amoral God IS NOT fit to arbitrate morality in statement (2). You seem to flat out contradict yourself.

Unless you are trying to imply that only an "amoral" person could be a judge of morality, which in of itself seems illogical. An "amoral" person is someone who does not comprehend morality at all (as opposed to an immoral being, which knows morality, but chooses not to follow it).

I guess that you are trying to imply that a moral being is biased toward moral behavior, and therefore cannot be a fair judge, since he will always take the side of the moral person over the immoral person. But then again, isn't that exactly what you would expect from a fair judge?

And then you make your statement even more confusing by saying in statement (2) that God cannot be moral himself, simply because he is involved in moral issues. How is that logical? I don't even think that you are speaking English.

Answer 2

--INDEED he is of the highest of moral agents, AND can & does distinquish the immoral very clearly--AS is expressed here:

(Psalm 50:16-22) “16 But to the wicked one God will have to say: “What right do you have to enumerate my regulations, And that you may bear my covenant in your mouth? 17 Why, you—you have hated discipline, And you keep throwing my words behind you. 18 Whenever you saw a thief, you were even pleased with him; And your sharing was with adulterers. 19 Your mouth you have let loose to what is bad, And your tongue you keep attached to deception. 20 You sit [and] speak against your own brother, Against the son of your mother you give away a fault. 21 These things you have done, and I kept silent. You imagined that I would positively become like you. I am going to reprove you, and I will set things in order before your eyes. 22 Understand this, please, YOU forgetters of God, That I may not tear [YOU] to pieces without there being any deliverer.”

--IT IS CONFUSING as you try invalidate God being the greatest of all Judges--That indeed does not stand in any quarter.

--WHEN the Israelites had no king, & Jehovah was accepted by them--They had all they needed & wanted from such a grand ruler,

(Isaiah 33:21-22) “21 But there the Majestic One, Jehovah, will be for us a place of rivers, of wide canals. On it no galley fleet will go, and no majestic ship will pass over it. 22 For Jehovah is our Judge, Jehovah is our Statute-giver, Jehovah is our King; he himself will save us.”