Who should go to hell? One person, non religious, lives a good and kind life, because they believe it's right,

Question

they dont expect to go anywhere when they die.

The other person, christian - lives a good and kind life so they can get into heaven when they die.

Who is the most virtuous?

Answer 1

The person that is non religious and lives a good kind life because its the right thing to do IMO is the most virtuous. The christian on the other hand lives just to get in to Heaven.
People should do good for the sake of good. Not for what they can get out of it.

Answer 2

There is no ever burning hell. It was created by one An Italian Florentine poet, Durante degli Alighieri, better known as Dante Alighieri or just Dante, June 1, 1265 – September 13/14, 1321, created the idea of the hell that is taught to the world. The Catholic Church grabed the concept and ran with it. The protestants appear to take all things which the Catholics tell as truth and they also teach an ever burnning hell.
Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.ell. Here is what God's tells us about the wicked.
Also no one goes to heaven when thay die, another creation by the Catholic Church. The dead are dead, awaiting the resurection, of which there are two. Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Answer 3

Nobody deserves anything different. That's why Jesus was sent to us, to make it possible for us non-holy types to get to Heaven even though we are undeserving.

Based on virtue, I would guess that whoever tries to live good and kind without the expectation of reward, whether here or in the hereafter, would be more virtuous. Let me know if you meet some people like that; I'd like to hang out with them.

Oops, here come all the thumbs.

Answer 4

Non .... if there is a heaven .... both should be there.

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Now answer this question :

Who should go to hell?

One person, non religious, lives a good and kind life, because they believe it's right, they don't expect to go anywhere when they die.

The other person, christian - Kills, plunder, rape lives a bad life because they believe if they accept christ as their personal saviour, they will go to heaven, since it is documented in the little black book.

Answer 5

"None shall enter the kingdom of heaven but by me". This was Jesus' statement when ask a similar question. Sorry, but God may be a loving God, but he does have rules.
Now let me ask you one. Who should we release from prison, A person that puts in his full amount of time but is not sorry for what he did, or the person who really change in prison but is condemned to 4 life sentences? We all must follow certain rules, and the bottom line is, "None shall enter the kingdom of heaven by good works alone." A murderer who accepts Christ as his savior has a better chance to enter heaven than the man who lives a good life but does not believe.

Answer 6

Ultimately, God will decide the outcome. However, the person who lives life with goodwill because s/he thinks it right isn't an obvious choice for being "more virtuous" than the frightened Christian. At least the frightened Christian has sought God in order to make sense of life and death. The goodwilled person who does things because he thinks they are right prescribes to no higher authority than himself. Therefore, I suspect God would want to know why the goodwilled person didn't at least seek out the wisdom of religion to ascertain the fundamental principles of good and evil.

Answer 7

I don't believe in heaven or hell, but given your example, I'd say the first person is the more virtuous because he neither expects a reward nor fears punishment for the kind of life he leads.

Answer 8

The answer to this is very simple. Neither of them.

I am a Christian. Let me explain how this works.

No one earns their way to heaven. Anyone, Christian or not, who does works that are good and kind for any reason other than to glorify the Lord is acting in pride, and such actions are sins against the Lord. That individual is looking for boasting rights: "See all the good and kind things I've done. I'm assured a ticket to heaven!" they can say. Congratulate them on earning the Pharisees of the year award.

The only way anyone goes to heaven is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

Now, that's not a simple statement, so I'll elaborate.

Going to heaven is not a matter of earning wings, and playing a harp while reclining on a cloud. Rather it's a matter of being able to be in the presence of the Holy Lord without incinerating from the sheer magnitude of His glory. And we were designed as such that being with the Lord is a joy beyond what can be imagined.

The first people to experience this joy was Adam and Eve in the garden before the fall. When they fell, sin entered into the world, bringing death with it. It was passed down from Adam to all of humanity, except for Christ. Christ did not have an earthly father, but was fathered by the Holy Spirit. Mary was tainted with sin, but sin doesn't pass from the mother to the child. She was a devout woman who pleased God, but she was not divine and it's idolatry to worship her.

While He was here, Christ healed the sick and taught people about the true nature of God, the father. He never harmed a soul and helped many people who never thanked Him. He brought with Him wisdom and hope.

All very good reasons to kill someone right? Of course, I'm being sarcastic here. The truth is Christ's death on the cross makes no sense. Christ committed no crime. He did nothing to justify the actions taken against Him.

However, He did say that no one would take His life, but that He would lay it down. And the actual crucifixion - that was done by God the Father. Why?

Because God is just. And sin in such an affront to Him that He has to punish it. But no mere human being could withstand all the punishment required to atone for even the smallest sin. So God, because He loves humanity substituted His own Son for us. All of the sin of the world was transferred onto Christ before He died. When He rose from the dead three days later, the power of sin and death was broken forever.

Those who accept on faith Christ as the Son of God receive grace. This means God, the Father, will accept Christ's sacrifice as atonement for every sin the believer ever committed or will commit. This is called justification. At that point, the Holy Spirit comes into our hearts, and we begin the life-long process of sanctification. For those who have tried, and been unable to read the Bible, at this point, the Bible will make a tremendous and profound amount of sense.

Obeying Christ's commands, as written in the Bible, is, among other things, the outward manifestation of the change in the heart, and indication that Christ is the Lord of one's life. The actions will not earn anyone a ticket to heaven, but will glorify God, which is the purpose we were created for in the first place.

Answer 9

The first person lacks faith in God, so if he ever makes it to heaven, it will be a miracle. Not expecting to "go anywhere" demonstrates a lack of hope. His good works demonstrate charity, so perhaps there is some "hope" for him after all.

The Christian has already demonstrated his faith by "accepting" Jesus Christ. His good works show that he has charity. Expecting to obtain heaven demonstrates hope.

Faith, hope, and charity are the three cardinal virtues.

The first person has one of them, the Christian has all three.

God remains the judge.

Answer 10

I do not believe in a heaven or hell. The more virtuous person is the person who lives their life the right way because of their convictions, not because they will be rewarded for their "good behavior" later. The first person used what the creator gave them....free will. They chose to live by their convictions REGARDLESS of the rewards or consequences.