Abortion: Which pro life method of murder kills the most children, is it anti abortion plus adoption?

Question

I proved in a previous post, (click my avatar to go to my questions) that each time a pro lifer stops an abortion, it kills 12 living, loved and wanted children in a third world nation. What happens if the pro life murderers force by law an end to abortion and force adoption of the fetus? Does that save more lives or does it cause more death? This question is not to the pro lifers, they will skirt the issue. If they want to answer they must prove their statements with quotes from the Bible, Laws in force in the US or by some other explanation that makes sense. Senseless statements proven foolish in my other postings will bring a big laugh.
Hint--- If you save one fetus for adoption, what happens to the millions of other children that need a home? How many do you cause to die and how many do you cause to suffer?

Flugelbe—my question should be taught in school.

Phoseisf--- It depends on if that cabbage you call a brain has already been used for soup.



Zero---- If you believe in God, then you know another pro abortionist. God created abortion and uses it every day in the form of miscarriage.

Meg Mich--- There is a difference between loved and wanted children such as mine and a fetus. It is you that believe they are equal. I say that a fetus is less important that a born, loved, living and wanted child. If for no other reason, only 50% of fertilized eggs ever make it to birth, your killing a 100% alive child on a 50 / 50 chance your egg will live. Only fools make bets like that. When you make the trade for a fetus and take away even 1 loved child, you are committing a grave sin equal in every way to murder. So your argument, though sassy and cute is simply an excuse for you to commit murder.

Liv--- Read above first.
No I do not wish to trade any loving and living child for 12 others.
Yes I am a woman dressed as a man trying to fool you---
If you counseled 3 women to “save” their fetuses, then yes you are a murderer.
I don’t care how many babies you felt move inside you. If they are unwanted and you pass a law stopping abortion, you are a murderer. If you have loved and wanted children, then you should adopt a foreign orphan and then you can say you are pro life. Otherwise, you are a murderer. Or you could contribute another way either by money or counseling women who don’t want their kids to have abortions. Then you could help save 12 instead of murdering them.
I know more about abortion than you. I know that it is a sacrifice that is made by two people, the father and mother. I agree that the mother suffers more, but the father suffers just as much if he loves his children. You are clearly ignorant of the toll on men and that is why you are so closed minded.

figure it out----
Figure it out can't figure it out. Put on your thinking cap. People have a choice. They can spend their money "saving" fetuses, or they can spend their money saving living and breathing kids. If they choose they do not have to spend it on saving children or fetuses. But if they choose fetuses they will save 100,000 and if they choose to save children they can save 1.2 million. Pro lifers such as this nut say that if they cannot save fetuses, then they will not save children. That does not supprise me because they are not pro life, they are pro death. So he is right in the sense that pro lifers will let the children die. And the most foolish part is that only 50% of the eggs and fetuses they attempt to save will live. So they waste 50% of their time trying to "save" 100000 "fetuses" when they could save 1.2 million children with a near 100% success rate. The only focus of these nutcakes is in the unreasonable worship of the fetus and their hate for children.

dbf...... Its mass murder to be pro life.

baremusi......
You are a prime example why the pro life is made up of murderers. You can do simple math, yet you cannot figure out that it cost about 40 times more (on the upper end of the spectrum) to give birth than to abort. So if we do as you say 40 kids will be murdered for each you save. I know that you know you are killing when you do this. So I guess I don't understand your motivation. Why murder and call it pro life?
The things you can do "right now" are simple. Stop lying by saying that you are pro life when actually you are anti abortion and pro death.
Make pro life people stop their insanity.

The choice here is simple. You can chose to save lives by allowing abortion, or you can continue to murder by being pro life. It is really that simple.

baremusi---
Take everything you say in your posting about saving lives and multiply it by 12 and you will see how many people's lives you can help by allowing abortion. Only a fool could continue being pro life knowing what you now know.

HAVEN E
You are typical of the average pro lifer. You could not care less if you kill 12 loved and living babies as long as you are allowed to worship at cord of the fetus. Most people reading you post will see clearly that you care nothing about their kids and you care nothing about the fetus, you only care about yourself. Nothing you say makes any sense at all.

Answer 1

Strange... I know of pro-life and pro-choice, know several of both, but I'd never actually met anyone pro-abortion.

Answer 2

There are two things to consider to this argument

1. What can we do about this right now? This month?

2. What can we do in the future?

There are many people who support the pro-life choice. So much that you say it can bring in lots of money. Well abortion also brings in a lot of money. According to statistics
107,750 babies are aborted every month. If the cost of an abortion costs $250.00 that is 26,937,500 dollars brought in this month alone. If for every fetus that was saved the pro-lifers would be more than likely to celebrate. I think most pro-lifers would agree right now to give 250.00 for each fetus saved this month to an good organization that would help third world kids. It is so sad that some of the money is lost to organize and pay the workers of these organizations. I know it has to be done but we must remember that not every penny gets there. On top of that the governments of some of the third world countries steals the food from the people for which it was meant for. How can these be wanted children when their own government steals food from them? Fetuses born in america are wanted children. Just look at the waiting list of people who want to adopt. Even when many do go to other countries to adopt. I know several people who have done just that.

2. I know that money is an issue to raise these children. If you didn't have children you would be paying more in taxes. Children are a tax break or whatever it is called. Not every child needs brand new clothes (it is nice) but at the expense of their own lives at stake I think they would settle for used clothing. There are many state and religious organizations out there to help families. It is just a matter of finding them and getting the assistence needed to use them. These children will grow up to be tax payers and make money. It is a monoply effect. Not only that, they just may have a passions to help the poor because they struggled with not always having enough money and actually want to make something and help the world. They are the teachers, doctors, scientists, cancer curers of the future, but only if they have a future.


I can say the same about you. You can do simple math also. However, simple math isn't going to solve either problem.

Answer 3

So basically what you are saying is that women should start killing the babies in their wombs so save the ones that are here, thus not making any to replace them when they die? I don't have to skirt anything. I could understand if a womans life were at stake, but other than that abortion is murder know matter how you slice it. I have heard a woman who worked at an abortionist clinic say "Yeah we kill babies, so what!" It is on video. So I guess by what you are saying I had two babies so I should feel guilty for all of the ones that died in order to have them. I bet you are glad that your mom didn't have that way of thinking, otherwise you wouldn't be around to make such an ignorant arguement. Oh, and by the way, if you are so worried about kids dying all over the world then start sending some money to feed the children. Or instead of riding on pro lifers, why don't you tell some of these celebrities and rich folks to stop buying 10 houses and cars at a time and donate some money to third world countries. All the money generated the day after thanksgiving when everyone goes shopping is enough to give every child in the world clean water to drink from. So instead of jumping on pro lifers, go jump on the cases of the people who have the money to help fix the problems but are out buying Gucci bags.

Answer 4

Interesting concept. So, each time a woman chooses to have her child, it kills12 other children? How does this even make sense to you? Are you a woman? Have you ever had an abortion? So, because I have 3 children, I have killed 36? And your mothers choice to bear you, cost 12?And my mother bearing me, and 3 siblings, killed 48? Well, I guess you've said you dont want "prolifers" to answer, yet the very last part of your question, is directed at those horrible people who try to save fetuses. Let me ask you something, Mr. Liberty, have you ever felt a baby move inside of you? Have you ever felt the soul of another leap in your womb? Have you wondered, why your mommy chose to have you? Have you asked her? Is your life, worth more? Don't even call me narrow minded, I had 2 abortions when I was younger, and I have given birth to 3 human beings. That's what they are ya know. Your the fool. You have no idea, the feelings a woman experiences when she is lying there, feeling like this is her only option. You have no idea, how painful both physically and emotionally, abortion is. You have no idea that it is routine to give women valium before abortion, to keep them from freiking out. You have no idea what it is like to feel that void after the procedure; to know you just took away someones chance. You have no right to say anything about abortion, because you have never walked in those shoes.So, shut up, and keep your stupid opinions to your self, and go give your mom a kiss.

No, YOU DO NOT KNOW MORE ABOUT ABORTION THAN I DO. I did not say I have counseled 3 women, I said I have GIVEN BIRTH to 3 children, and have had 2 abortions. I will try to speak in words that are more comprehensive to you:
1) You contradicted yourself. You said it is painful for a father that loves their CHILD.
2) We have already established that I AM A MURDERER.
3) Don't you DARE call me ignorant, I have BEEN THERE. You, however HAVE NOT.
4) who are YOU to say a fetus is less important,than a "loved" child? My mom doesn't love me, does that make me less important than you?
5) Go climb back into your hole, it's right behind you.

Answer 5

"Liv" said it well. Should people kill their American children so that 12 non-American children can live? Should you kill yourself so 12 children can live? Should children be killed if they are unloved or unwanted? Should you be killed if you are unloved or unwanted (which seems very likely)? It makes NO SENSE. Life begins at conception and peace begins in the womb. It has nothing to do with religion or the bible, but everything to do with life.

Liv also brings up the issue that abortion does not just kill babies - it destroys the women who have them. Did you know that 97.5% of women regret their abortions? The rest are probably in denial. Women deserve better than abortion.

Answer 6

This person is delusional at best. Actually, I "proved" in his previous question "Abortion: Is there a spokesman..." that murdering an unborn baby is wrong. Click on his avatar to read the entire text. There is no connection to third-world, starving children and killing unborn children.

"Give me..." you should really try to rethink your position -- do more research, talk to people that do not spout your own drivel ...perhaps even grow up.

Good luck on your search for truth (if you actually start down that road).

Think about it -- figure it out!

Answer 7

It's insane to be pro-choice

As I said this before, abortion creates problems. It solves none!

Answer 8

Just sending this to prove I can, without a passage from the bible. I don't take kindly to ultimatums. And I think there may be something very.....homosexual about the whole deal.

Answer 9

If I don't eat a turnip, does that cause the extinction of 12 other vegetables by default?

Answer 10

i know what you are saying, when an unwanted child is born, it must be adopted, now a homeless child that would have been adopted has no home.

more children = more homeless children. simple. i agree. im pro-abortion.