hahaha, this is great, Christians are reacting to this the same way Jews react to Christians when they try to justify Jesus in the Torah using the exact same techniques. got to love it.
2007-03-28 05:40:40
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answer #1
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answered by Don't Fear the Reaper 3
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Well, from what we understand about this passage. It says, "The Lord came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir...." What does it mean the Lord came from Sinai? This is the place where God revealed Himself unto people and initiated His covenant with them. From the day the Lord revealed Himself to the Israelites at Sinai His Presence went with them in a pillar of cloud as a fire. Also, the ark of the covenant was among them after departing from Sinai. With the covenant of God came his promises. And one of God's promises was that Israel would have the territory all the way up to Mt. Seir. Mt. Seir was the region which was given to the descendants of Esau, Jacob's brother. The Lord would not permit Israel to take possession of Esau's inheritance. Lastly, part of the verse says, "................He shone forth from Mt. Paran". The words "shone forth" is in reference to God's exposing His glory or manifested goodness. Remember, when Moses wrote this, he was about to die and the Israelites were getting ready to walk into their inheritance, Now Mt. Paran is the place where Moses sent out the spies to spy out the land God had promised Israel. This passage is really in reference to God coming into the life of the Israelites and as a result the goodness of His promises is coming to pass.
2007-03-28 06:06:16
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answered by super saiyan 3 6
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It means, The Lord came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; He shone forth from Mount Paran.
I don't see Muhammads name in there.
2007-03-28 05:29:19
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answered by RedE1 3
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I won't claim to be an expert, but I will show you what I've found. I am convinced that mohammed was a false prophet, and there are too many verses in the Bible that would dissuade me to think that it wasn't so, especially in the Old Testament.
But here is what I've found on that verse:
33:2 The Lord came - Namely, to the Israelites, manifested himself graciously and gloriously among them. From Sinai - Beginning at Sinai, where the first appearance of God was, and so going on with them to Seir and Paran. And rose up - He appeared or shewed himself, as the sun doth when it riseth. From Seir - From the mountain or land of Edom, to which place the Israelites came, Num 20:14, and c. and from thence God led them on towards the land of promise, and then gloriously appeared for them in subduing Sihon and Og before them. But because the land of Edom is sometimes taken more largely, and so reacheth even to the Red - sea, and therefore mount Sinai was near to it, and because Paran was also near Sinai, being the next station into which they came from the wilderness of Sinai: all this verse may belong to God's appearance in mount Sinai, where that glorious light which shone upon mount Sinai directly, did in all probability scatter its beams into adjacent parts, such as Seir and Paran were. And if so, this is only a poetical expression of the same thing in divers words, and God coming or rising or shining from or to or in Sinai and Seir and Paran note one and the same illustrious action of God appearing there with ten thousands of his saints or holy angels, and giving a fiery law to them. Paran - A place where God eminently manifested his presence and goodness both in giving the people flesh which they desired, and in appointing the seventy elders and pouring forth his spirit upon them. With ten thousands of saints - That is, with a great company of holy angels, Psa 68:17 Dan 7:10, which attended upon him in this great and glorious work of giving the law, as may be gathered from Acts 7:53 Gal 3:19. From his right hand - Which both wrote the law and gave it to men. An allusion to men who ordinarily write and give gifts with their right hand. A fiery law - The law is called fiery, because it is of a fiery nature purging and searching and inflaming, to signify that fiery wrath which it inflicteth upon sinners for the violation of it, and principally because it was delivered out of the midst of the fire.
2007-03-28 05:46:39
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answer #4
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answered by Christian Sinner 7
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The basic underlying fallacy of all those who make interpretations of bibles is that they assume, without proof, that one or another "sacred" book carries special authority in its words.
Christians have less excuse than most others for making this foolish mistake, because Jesus himself is credited with saying "On this rock I will build my church." He did *not* say - "On this rock I will write my book."
He delegated authority to his apostles, and sent them out on a mission. The bible's canonicity was not decided upon until centuries later long after all the apostles were dead.
Efforts to validate the Bible by words of the Bible are logically absurd. The reason the Bible carries authority with actual informed Christians is that church fathers agreed to regard it as authoritative.
The majority of the world's Christians recognize that authority derives from the church. The Protestant minority of the church is deluded by the fallacy of *sola scriptura* promulgated by the fanatical Martin Luther.
Fundamentalists, who are a minority even of this minority, are even more deluded. They treat the Bible as a talisman, an amulet, which wards off evil, so they worship it in the same way that the Cargo Cultists of the South Pacific worship their straw models of WW2 aircraft, awaiting the return of their Messiah. Some seem to ascribe magical powers to the presence of an open Bible in front of them.
Jesus asked his adherents to give up everything and simply follow him. Fundamentalists are less often seen doing this than are many other Christians. How many fundamentalists do you know who have given up everything to follow the man? Oh, I didn't think so. Given the choice of following the man or worshipping the book, many fundamentalists would cheerfully crucify him all over again.
2007-03-28 05:49:30
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answered by fra59e 4
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Yeah, the New Testament does a lot of twisting and tugging of the Old Testament itself. Matthew was an expert at it. There are hundreds of prophesies attributed to being fulfilled by Jesus, but a careful examination of the prophesies in their original context reveals that most of them have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus or a coming messiah.
2007-03-28 05:31:19
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answered by Wisdom in Faith 4
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Moses is offering his final blessing on the people of Israel. You have to remember the Israelites were wandering the desert for 40 years...
Moses is reminding the people of God's blessings on them at different times throughout their stay in the wilderness. I don't take this as any mention of other prophets, no...
I take this as Moses reminding the people of God's blessings throughout their journey to the Promised Land.
2007-03-28 05:32:24
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answered by Anonymous
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I would be very hesitant to say that this is an even close to accurate meaning from this partial verse. It doesn't seem to relate to the context of the passage or the complete verse. I'd try reading the entire passage for the meaning.
2007-03-28 05:32:51
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answered by Pirate AM™ 7
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Good try,
Muslims have been trying to justify Muhammad by using the old testament for generations.
It takes a ton of twisting and tugging and it still does not fit.
Follow Jesus, not Muhammad.
Peace!
2007-03-28 05:28:43
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answered by C 7
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it particularly is a false impression that takes slightly to comprehend. the dominion of Heaven (Kingdom of God in different Gospels) is relatively the Church. no person at that 2nd grow to be interior the Church by using fact it grow to be no longer formed yet and Jesus is likewise speaking suitable to the violence that it would undergo even in the previous the time of Acts grow to be over. Jesus envisioned that the dominion will are available in the previous many at that factor have been ineffective in distinctive places: Mark 9:a million, Matthew sixteen:28, Luke 9:27. observe additionally that two times John in Revelation a million:6 and 9, mentioned that he (John) grow to be a member of this Kingdom. the dominion of Heaven in that passage is speaking suitable to the Church.
2016-10-20 03:19:55
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answered by ? 4
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