Atheist: what do u think of...?

Question

Ok, there are some things about God and religion that I can't explain. I accept it.
Now, I want to know your opinion about medical miracles. We all have heard of at least one miracle before, like a person who had cancer and now is healthy and things like that, where there are doctors and other scientist that can't explain what happened. What Do you think? Can you explain it? or are you humble enough to admit that -like me- you dont know it all?

I call it miracle because that's how we call this situations (we= believers), but you're free to call them whatever u like. The meaning is the same: by "miracle" -or whatever-I mean something that can not be explained by science.

ok, at least Vinslave said something original and really answered the question. The rest of you sound like us christians when we dont have the answers for things, many of you get angry when you asn things such as "why does God let innocent children to suffer?" and we say "it is not God, humans are bad. God doesnt want them to suffer". Then you say that it is not a valid answer.
"Just because we can not explain it doesnt make it a miracle", is that a good answer? dont critizise us then.

"just because we can't explain it, it doesnt prove that God exists"....Guys, Im not forcing you to say that God exist! I just want to know if you have a better explanation or if u dont. I call it miracle, and I say that God did it, some call it Karma, some people admit that they dont know. But by the way, you say that it doesnt proves that God exists... well, it doesnt proves that He doesnt exist either.

Answer 1

Karma... just the same as the guy, on the boat, who bent over to pick something out of the cooler (or somesuch), at the last minute, and didn't get decapitated but his 3 buddies did... by a bridge. Karma... and the mind's ability to heal itself and the body. They're starting to work on the science of how the mind interacts with the body, you might find it interesting. B. Alan Wallace, along with His Holiness the Dalai Lama interacts with such scientist frequently.

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Answer 2

Cannot be explained by science is very different from hasn't been explained by science. You are talking about the God of the Gaps. A side note even if those were miracles can you be 100% sure it was the god you worship? Really what is the magical tie that hold that miracle to the god you worship? Is it that the person who recieve the miracle believed in your god? What about the so called miracles that happened to people of other faiths? Or of no faiths? When asking the question about the so far unexplained it is not right to assume responsibility to any one agent, without first looking further into the subject. To do so would be in denial of discovery and reason. Saying "God make it happen" is like saying I don't know and I don't want to find out. Which is fine for some, but there are going to be people who say, wow that's amazing if I could figure out how it happened, maybe no one will ever have to worry about cancer.

Answer 3

i am agnostic, but i feel the need to answer anyway. Just because a person doesn't believe in the Bible and /or God does not mean they can't believe in miracles. And does not mean they think they know it all. It means they don't believe what you believe. That's all. i believe in miracles but who am i to say who caused that miracle - why can't it be nature or the persons own will to live? It seems to me you are saying if it is unexplained that that just means it is God's will. OK that is fine for you to believe, but that should not mean that others who believe differently are wrong or should be looked down on for not agreeing with you. Right?
Humility has nothing to do with people questioning the existence of God. If in history people hadn't had the nerve to question a lot of things we sure would be living in a different world. Such as the world being flat, anything in space, slavery, equal rights etc etc etc. If there hadn't been those that had the nerve to stand up and question what they didn't understand or thought was wrong - we all would be living in a far different society.
Maybe some people who believe so assuredly in their religion should be a little humble and admit they don't know it all as well???????

Answer 4

Most "medical miracles" I've heard of rely on false assumptions about the natural history of the specific disease. For example, that cancer is invariably fatal and progressive and never spontaneously resolves.

This is not to say that spiritual experiences can't influence the course of some illnesses, especially those that have a strong psychological component such as addictions, or people's responses to chronic pain.

But I've never seen, or even heard of a medical miracle in the sense of the reversal of a pathological process that defies the laws of nature. God doesn't heal amputees.

Answer 5

Some people are assuming here that people who experience miracle cures did nto visit a doctor or recieve treatment that we would consider normal.

Instead, these are people that were condemned to death by their doctors - after failing medical treatment.

And yes - they do exist. And their doctors, many non-religious are the first to throw up their hands and go "I don't understand, they should be dead, but their cancer disappeared and never came back."

When the doctor is mystified then you have to wonder.

I actually know one guy that did decide not to recieve treatment. He was told he was terminal. He allowed his faith to carry him. He didn't want to suffer chemo and radiation to extend his life by a few months. One month he had widespread cancer. The next month - nothing. All his tests are normal. The doctor was so confused he tried to claim that the cancer was hiding behind an organ!

It hasn't come back.

There was another incident of a woman being frozen. Doctors were scared of moving her because they feared breaking a limb or finger off. That's how frozen she was. She had a heart rate of 7, a breath rate of 3. That's pretty damn near dead. Friends, family and medical staff prayed for her, as doctors thought she was pretty much already dead. Her eyes were frozen open, and her brain was inactive.

She made a full recovery - and lost no limbs or even finger/toes in the process.

There are some things beyond explaination.

Answer 6

Spontaneous remission is not unheard of, although granted it's uncommon. For all we know about cancer, there is much more we don't know.

I accept that I don't know everything. I never claimed to. But unlike religionists, I look for the answers instead of stopping at "God did it." Science does the same thing. While a religionist will say "It's a miracle," and leave it at that, a scientist is going to look to find out why it happened. That's how we learn things. Religion likes blind faith; science wants provable fact.

Answer 7

Atheists are more willing to admit they don't know it all than Believers. Because Believers insist that they know God had a hand in a miracle, whereas we are willing to admit that something we don't understand has happened. We are just smart enough to know that a miracle is no proof of God.

Answer 8

You are confusing "miracle", with unexplainable recovery. Just because cancer goes into remission, that does not mean it was a miracle, that just means we do not fully understand the nature of cancer. I can admit that I don't know it all, but I also have the courage to live my life knowing I do not know it all instead of ascribing the meaning to things that I do not know to "God". If God really magically healed sick or injured people, why has it that no amputee has ever regrown a limb?

Answer 9

i have never heard of anything like that, maybe on tv shows but not in real life...i know some people who suffered from cancer and i think it is just unfair to say this miracle thing. I doubt you know anyone who had enjoyed those "medical miracles" you are talking about...It is like the tunnel with the light when you experience an almost deadly episode, we all have heard about it but i dont know of anyone who knows anyone who has experienced that him/herself

Answer 10

There is an explanation for everything. Just because we as humans cannot understand it doesn't make it a miracle. It just happens to be something we don't know or are unable to understand. We as humans can't understand everything in this universe, maybe not even 1%.