Once saved, always saved...?

Question

Just a clarification for those who inquire about it.

I am Baptist (religion) but Christian above everything else. I've noticed quite a few questions regarding if it's possible to lose your salvation. The simple answer to that is No.

Once you are a saved, you are always saved. What confuses people is the fact that they fool themselves into thinking they are truely believers. Just because you go to church, can quote the word, or have your name on a roster doesn't make you saved. Satan knows God's word and demons have entered the santuary before. Christianity is a life style. If you honestly believe and trust, then you will display that love for all everywhere you go (ALL the time).
If you are really saved, losing it should be the last thing on your mind. If you fear that then you aren't really saved.
Reason: Jesus knows all. Judas followed him around & Jesus knew he didn't believe. If one falters in their belief, it was known they would.

TRUTH

UR thoughts?

I know that many (probably 'christians') will disagree with me. But I hope you really think about the big picture...
If you stopped believing in God at some point, he knew it would happen. So why would he change his mind and take his salvation away from you?

This isn't like a soap opera, where a man initially loves a woman, then changes his mind later on down the road.

"fireyhai…"<<<<<

>You will not get into heaven because you never believed. Like I said, if you faltered then you were never saved. You fooled yourself into thinking you were.

You are missing it:

IF YOU SAY THAT YOU NO LONGER BELIEVE then that means you never believed. If you did believe, it would have been 100% (no doubt whatsoever). If you come to the point that you renounce God, then there was something that kept you from believing.

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Just as I thought, some fellow Christians disagree, and believe that you can lose your salvation. Let me ask this question then... Why are we trying to win over the lives of atheists, when some/most of them where once Christians? Salvation is still available.

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Answer 1

you're a true christian se-ke... i agree with what you say.

God, in His supreme Sovereignty, will not get “overruled” at His intention of saving you if you suddenly “changed your mind” about having Him in your life. To all non-Christians and confused Christians, understand that what God wants to happen, does happen, and your salvation is not dependent on your own will, or else that will be salvation through works (which is NOT THE CASE). It is His grace that allowed even our irreconcilable selves to be one with Him. Once God puts a stamp on us as saved, we are saved, and good works come out as fruits of what we believe in. We will not get "unsaved", if we really accepted Christ as our Lord the time we say we've accepted Him. Or else you really didn't consider Him as Lord of your life.

PS mr. sunestauromai below:
Calvinism does not teach the TULIP. it is the wesleyans who does. Calvinists are once saved, always saved. check your reference again.

Answer 2

Wow I loved your comments... Here is how I explain it..

Christians are Born of God. We become His children. I am an old man I have children and grandchildren. There is NOTHING they could do that would ever make them NOT my children. How could such a thing happen. Be nonborn? Once faith is established you are a member of the family. And He will in no wise cast you out.. Trouble is there are a lot of people that have called themselves Christian that never trusted Jesus. That though if they followed all the rules and did everything they could think of that was good the God would love and except them. That is not Christian that is self righteousness, If you could earn salvation, if it could come to you by any other mean than through Jesus then He died in vain.. My God has done nothing in vain... Jim

Answer 3

Sorry, but I don't agree with that at all.

Once saved always saved sounds nice, but it's so not true! I'm not gonna just leave it at that. Let me explain before you draw conclusions on my reasonings.

A man once asked Jesus: "Lord, are those who are being saved few?" How did Jesus reply? Did he say: 'Just accept me as your Lord and Savior, and you will be saved'? No! Jesus said: "Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able."—Luke 13:23, 24.

On the contrary, the Bible lists immoral practices that are common among some people who think that they are "saved." Regarding one who continued in such ways, it instructed Christians: "Remove the wicked man from among yourselves." Surely God would not want wicked people contaminating his Christian congregation!—1 Corinthians 5:11-13.

Jesus did not say that people who begin the Christian course are saved. Instead, he said: "He that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved." (Matthew 10:22)

The Bible likens our Christian course to a race, with salvation being the prize at its end. And it urges: "Run in such a way that you may attain it."—1 Corinthians 9:24. Thus, "accepting Christ" involves far more than just accepting the blessings that Jesus' superlative sacrifice offers. Obedience is required. The apostle Peter says that judgment starts "with the house of God," and adds: "Now if it starts first with us, what will the end be of those who are not obedient to the good news of God?" (1 Peter 4:17)

Answer 4

No one on Earth can know that they are saved. St. Paul tells us in Romans 11, that the "true branches" were cut off for their lack of faith. Other branches were "grafted on." But how much quicker will God remove those "grafted on" branches if they don't mind their p's and q's.

St. Paul tells us over and over again to fight for our salvation. He was called by God to reach out to the Gentiles. Yet he stated his doubts about his own salvation.

Fight so as to win. Don't shadow box. (i paraphrase here...)

Judas believed in Jesus. Even at the end. He gave the money back stating he'd betrayed innocent blood.

Without Judas's act, we would have no sacrifice. No salvation. Judas did God's will.

The true Hebrew translation of the word "betray" in this context is to "offer up." Someone HAD to "offer up" Jesus to the Sanhedrin.

The only difference between Judas, who denied Christ, and Peter who denied Christ three times - is that Judas condemned himself and Peter threw himself at God's mercy.

Answer 5

No you cannot lose your salvation when you have truly repented and claimed the benefits of the atoning sacrifice of Christ. Your salvation is assured from the doctrine of the perserverance of the saints.

Falling from grace:

This taught that a saved man could fall finally from salvation. It is, of course, the logical and natural outcome of the system. If man must take the initiative in his salvation, he must retain responsibility for the final outcome.

But we know from the bible that no man can save himself. If he could, then Christ's death was in vain. We are called to repentence through the workings of the Holy Spirit. God's elect were chosen before the world was created.

God's gifts and his call are irrevocable (Romans 11:29).

For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son . . . And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified (Romans 8:29-30). All of those God justifies are glorified.

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand (John 10:28).

For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect-- if that were possible (Matthew 24:24). This implies it is not possible to deceive the elect and cause them to fall away.

I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me (Jeremiah 32:40).

Answer 6

Once you get saved, you are always saved, unless you publicly renounce God as your Savior. Well, it's pretty simple:

If God says that you have to confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead you will be saved, then once you stop believing Jesus is the son of God, then you're not saved anymore.

You're absolutely right...Christianity is a lifestyle, and that's what many "Christians" don't understand.

Answer 7

Deep doctrinal issue and one that has brought a lot of confusion and division in the true Church.

My personal view is that no, one has to choose to walk with Christ daily. Salvation is not something you achieve once (like a marathon). One must keep running, walking, moving in the same direction in order to arrive at the same destination, before the throne of grace.

My support is the Scripture in Revelation where Jesus says: "All who are victorious will be clothed in white. I will never erase their names from the Book of Life, but I will announce before my Father and his angels that they are mine." (Rev. 3:5, NLT).

The names written in the Book of Life (saved) can be erased by Christ (lose their salvation).

Also in Romans, Paul talks about those Gentiles, who like the Jews were chosen, but did not persevere. Paul warns us not to rely on being "chosen" b/c one can also be removed from the tree, as many Jews were who renounced the Messiah.

Answer 8

I agree, I am also a Baptist Christian. I firmly believe you cannot lose your salvation, if you are truly a Christian, you won't be worried about losing your salvation, that doesn't mean you don't have doubts, they mainly come from Satan and not the Holy Spirit. But if you are a true Christian then you won't want or desire to lose your salvation, it won't happen, it can't.

Answer 9

Hello beloved brother se-ke.. :)

One can give their salvation back..they can turn from the Lord and in doing so, they are denying the Holy Spirit..they will bear thorns and briers and then they will be rejected..they in the end will be burned.. :(


Hebrews 6

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:

8 but that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

9 ¶ But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.


In Jesus Most Precious Name..
With Love..your sister In Christ.. :)

Answer 10

Se-ke,
I would like for you to justify this with scripture. The reason that you can not is because you are following a false doctrine of a Denominational Church. The Baptists who follow this doctrine have been duped into believing it by hearing it over and over again but it is doctrinally false. There are those of the church who were lost and there are others who will be lost in the future. This, we are told in the scriptures (References to come).

Answer 11

Saving faith ( remember, we are saved by God's grace through faith ) involves true repentance, i.e. a sorrowful turning from sin, and turning to God through Christ. Saving faith is ALWAYS a repentant faith. ( Acts 2:37-38 )
Faith includes obedience to Jesus Christ and His Word as a way of life, inspired by our faith and gratitude to God, and by the regenerating work of the Spirit. ( John 3:3-6; 14:15, 21-24 ) This is an "obedience to the faith". ( Rom. 1:5 ) Therefore, faith and obedience belong inseparably together. ( Rom. 16:26 ) Saving faith without commitment to sanctification ( separation unto God ) is impossible.