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2007-03-27 09:24:39 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

"I and the Father are one." John 10:30

"And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one." John 17:11

2007-03-27 09:46:18 · update #1

The fact that Jesus says in these texts that He and the Father are one and that He calls God His Father clearly presents a contrast to the belief that Jesus is only a prophet. Jesus exalts himself to the place of God. If he is only a prophet than he is a blasphemer. He can't be only a prophet because of His claims to being God. We should accept his words if he is a prophet and he claims to be God. Therefore he is either god or a blasphemer. That is what I don't understand. If Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet, where is the information about Jesus based on, clearly not the New Testament of the Bible?

2007-03-27 10:24:16 · update #2

Hey there buddy, not trying to prove anything just asking a simple question that I am perplexed about. Thanks!

2007-03-27 10:33:31 · update #3

John 14:6 - 11 (ESV) 6Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you had known me, you would have known my Father also.£ From now on you do know him and have seen him.” 8Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. 11Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves.

2007-03-27 10:39:47 · update #4

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can you support the "teaching" by a Bible verse?

God bless

Edited

then explain to me "that they may be one, even as we are one" how can "they" be one as "we" are one?

does this mean that "They" are God too?

Edited again

this is a version of the bible you did not hear about

http://www.barnabas.net/

it is your choice to agree with it or not. but don't go and say it is written by Muslims. it is traced back to 130-200 AD centuries before Islam.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02299a.htm

here is a list of some of the refering to son father in the Bible

Adam the Son of God?
Luke 3:38
.... which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Sollomon is the Son of God?
1 Chronicles 22:10
He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son, and I will be his father.....

David is the Son of God?
2 Samuel 7:14
I will be his father, and he shall be my son.....

Psalms 89:27
"Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth"

Israel is the son of GOd?
Exodus 4: 22
"…Israel is my son, even my firstborn".

Jeremiah 31:9
"…For I (God) am a Father to Israel, and E’-phra-im is my firstborn."

son of God?
Matthew 8:29
..Son of God"

sons of God?
Deuteronomy14:1
..they are the sons of God

2007-03-27 09:31:28 · answer #1 · answered by Temsah 4 · 1 1

For Muslims the idea that Jesus is the son of God and is an aspect of God is heresy.

According to them "There is no God but God" and the Christian belief is a form of polytheism.

Jesus is revered as a prophet, along with many other biblical prophets, but he is not considered to be part of any Holy Trinity or the Son of God.

2007-03-27 09:30:47 · answer #2 · answered by Sandy G 6 · 2 0

Buddy you just disproved your self with your second quote.

Jesus makes a clear distinction with himself and God.

He says that the people should be one. That can only mean that they are in agreement/ of one mind.

Unless you want to argue that "all the people" represented one entity in the same way the trinity is parts of the same whole.

Clearly people are separate even if they can act as one.

When Jesus says he is one with God he is saying that he is doing God's will, not that he is part of him.

I am not even Muslim and I can tell you that!

2007-03-27 10:28:28 · answer #3 · answered by Gamla Joe 7 · 0 0

Jesus is only a Prophet(PBUH). "and when he had sent the multitudes away to pray, he went up into a mountain apart to pray..." Matthew 14:23 If Jesus is God or part of God then why did he pray? Isn't prayer always from a submitting, needy and dependent one for the Mercy of the Almighty?
"and behold. one came and said unto him, 'Good master, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life? 'and he said unto him, why thoust callest me good? (there is) none good but one, (i.e.) God, but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." Matthew 19:16,17

Sounds like submissiveness unto God.

2007-03-27 10:41:56 · answer #4 · answered by Simplicity 4 · 0 0

I am not a Muslim, but the reason for most of us who doubt the divinitiy of Jesus is generally that for every case where Jesus says "my father" he says "your father" and "our father." Additionally, Jesus goes to be alone to pray to God. If Jesus was God, why would he pray to himself?

As for John 10:30, you are taking that completely out of context. The reason why Jesus explains that he makes this claim is explained in John 10:34:
απεκριθη αυτοις ο ιησους ουκ εστιν γεγραμμενον εν τω νομω υμων εγω ειπα θεοι εστε
Jesus answered them; Is it not written in your law, "I said Ye are gods."

Jesus made numerous references to various people other than himself being one with god, being part of God, being a child of God, etc.

2007-03-27 09:58:19 · answer #5 · answered by Geoffrey J 3 · 0 0

I'm a Muslim and I personally believe that God is just too Glorius and too Supreme to have a son.

2007-03-27 09:54:19 · answer #6 · answered by Laela (Layla) 6 · 1 0

We believe that he never said he was God or God's son.

2007-03-27 09:30:12 · answer #7 · answered by E.T.01 5 · 2 0

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