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I am talking about more of the OT where there were a buncha cruncha jewish laws and stuff, i mean when jesus came and said u dont need to do all that silly stuff, doesnt that mean that this jewish code isnt takin litterally?
another question is for all those people who eat pigs and shellfish, you are just as bad as gay people right?

2007-03-27 08:42:45 · 17 answers · asked by its not gay if... 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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They aren't used because most Christians pick and chose which parts to follow.

Upon a critical reading of the Bible, it is impossible to believe any of that garbage.

2007-03-27 08:46:51 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 6 2

Man...you are all OVER the place, aren't you?

First off - its called the "Tanach".
To use "Old Testament" is sooooo Christian.
And I'm Jewish, so I don't buy into that terminology.

Anyway, I digress.
The Tanach, under Jewish study is an excellent book about how to live an ethical life.
Certainly from a Reform and some Conservative rabbinical points of view, the Tanach, and specifically the Torah, is not to be taken literally.

What everyone (of any faith, or lack thereof) could learn from Bible study is that our forefathers and mothers were not perfect.
Some made awful mistakes.
Some tried to correct their errant ways.

The point is, much like a child needs guidance from its parents, the Torah is a guideline for us to live our lives.

I've heard many Christians say "Jesus gave us the law of love, while the Jews were all about the love of law".
My reply is to ask them if they do or do not set rules (i.e., "laws") for their children.
Get my point?

Besides, Jesus was Jewish and his teachings were rooted in Judaism and Torah.
His parables were Jewish Bible stories to help his followers understand why we must study and learn Torah.

Anyway - I never could understand why some Christians went around with the "WWJD" jewelry but didn't get is when I said that Jesus would have been in shul on Shabbat (Friday night) and would NOT eat pork or shellfish.

2007-03-27 15:56:10 · answer #2 · answered by docscholl 6 · 0 1

Jesus never said He came to take away the Law but to fulfill it. There were alot of ordinances, statutes, and laws in the Old Testament which pointing to His coming. Once Jesus came those certain statutes were no longer neccessary to do. For example, the killing of sacrificial lambs pointed to Christ, but now that He has came and gone it is no longer neccessary to kill lambs. But the teaching in the Old Testament in still neccessary for clarity sake and teaching. Moreover, in Colossians 2:16 the apostle Paul said in the New Testament, let no man judge you in regard to drink, festival, new moon, or sabbaths which are a shadow of things to come, for the substace is of Christ. What was Paul sayings? Some of the things which were observed in the Old Testament are suitable to do, because they point and reflect Christ. The Law is good if it is used properly. As far as the pigs and shellfish. When God made the pig and shellfish they were considered clean and holy. But when sin came into the world a curse fell upon the animals as well. That's why God told the Israelites not the eat certain animals because they were cursed. However, now that Christ has come, those who are in Christ are able to consecrate whatever is set before them through prayer. This includes shellfish and pigs. It is now made holy through prayer with thanksgiving. That's in the bible. I took the short cut explanation.

2007-03-27 16:23:04 · answer #3 · answered by super saiyan 3 6 · 0 0

The teachings of Jesus, the Council of Jerusalem, and other New Testament teachings make it clear that Christians are not required to follow the Old Testament rules about crimes and punishments, warfare, slavery, diet, circumcision, sacrifice, feast days, Sabbath observance, ritual cleanness, etc. Christians still look to the Old Testament scripture for moral and spiritual guidance, but when there seems to be a conflict between Old Testament laws and New Testament principles, we must follow the New Testament because it represents the most recent and most perfect revelation from God. However, freedom from the Old Testament Law is not a license for Christians to relax their moral standards. The moral and ethical teachings of Jesus and His apostles call for even greater self-discipline than those of the Old Testament .

2007-03-27 15:54:45 · answer #4 · answered by saq428 6 · 1 1

Some of the Holy Bible is literal, some figurative and it takes great wisdom from the Holy Spirit to discern which is which.

The OT has many principles we can learn and apply to our lives but as Christians, we live under the grace of Jesus Christ in the New Testament.

Actually, Jesus deemed that it is not what goes in your mouth (pork or seafood) that is unclean but what comes out of our mouth. What comes from our lips is what is in our hearts. Period.

As for sexual sin, that is covered again and again in the OT and in the New Testament. Sex is the only sin that takes place inside the body. The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit and therefore a sin against the Holy Spirit.

Peace be with you.

2007-03-27 15:49:06 · answer #5 · answered by Salvation is a gift, Eph 2:8-9 6 · 2 1

LOL! Most people haven't actually read the bible. There are parts of it that say it's okay to keep slaves and females are property that can be bought and sold. Christians just ignore the parts they don't like. They just yell that jesus loves you. If you are going to believe in a religion, why don't you figure out what it stands for first.

2007-03-27 16:29:11 · answer #6 · answered by ♥willow♥ 7 · 0 1

Are you referring to the Mosaic Law? This law was done away with once Jesus died for us. God replaced the Mosaic Law with the Law of the Christ. The Mosaic Law was there to teach man of his need of a ransom sacrifice to redeem him from sin, but once Jesus died for us he paid for our sins and thus we do not live by that Law any more.
(Exodus 24:3) . . .Then Moses came and related to the people all the words of Jehovah and all the judicial decisions, and all the people answered with one voice and said: “All the words that Jehovah has spoken we are willing to do.”

Also "other parts" you ask about were not used because they were not inspired by God.

2007-03-27 15:56:05 · answer #7 · answered by purplemrskitty 2 · 0 1

Too Cool.... Well, The Editors, redactors, or etc.... They just Pushed some stuff with Filler. All these page turning Stuff did not Catch on till Shelley Wrote and Dr Polidori wrote his 13 part story ...

2007-03-27 15:49:15 · answer #8 · answered by Mictlan_KISS 6 · 1 1

It is ONLY Literal Truth if those verses and text serves their personal gain issues.

Adultery is as wicked a sin as Homsexuality accord to the Bible, old and new testaments, but why is it, SO MUCH focus is placed upon condemning the latter and belittling them as well... I dont see major rallies going against Adultery or showing Adultery on TV

Bottom line, it is Divine Truth ONLY if it doesn't trouble me or hamper my lifestyle... seems to be the way to go about seeing truth.

2007-03-27 15:50:34 · answer #9 · answered by Tenzin 3 · 0 2

Nooooooooooo don't mess with the horror that is religious logic, it will only make your head explode.

Only the parts that justify what they want to do (eg hate gay people) are literal. The rest is either A) Allegorical B)Taken out of context or C) Only appropriate for the time in which it was written

2007-03-27 15:49:29 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

There are certain parts that aren't convenient, so they're ignored. (Like Jesus saying---more than once--that in order to get into Heaven you need to sell everything you own and give to the poor.)
They tend to pay more attention to things that don't as much pertain to them. (Things they can condemn others about.)

2007-03-27 16:00:33 · answer #11 · answered by Jess H 7 · 0 0

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