Should the Church (Vatican/church of England) pay back slavery cash?

Question

Fact: The Church owned a lot of slaves and exploited them all.

Answer 1

I don't know much about the reparation argument but here's my initial feeling.

Slaves were exploited by others.
--Muslims or Arabs I think initiated chattel slavery along with the whites.

They were exploited by their own:
--Africans sold African's into slavery for guns, aid and resources. In Africa slavery was servitude by tradition--not barbarism. God bless them many did not know the horrors they were selling their kin into.
--Louisiana Creoles took slaves. They were treated humanely for the most part. And y'know---I don't even understand why some black folks are so quick to uplift the Creoles or their roots. Like Beyonce...
Why brag on the whiteness in your bloodline when you know full well that your great grandmother came about as a product of rape? Too appear 'not as black'? Is this a marketing tool to sell more records--what...?
That idiot is black. Beyonce is a freakin half-wit, so it's understandable.
But--do you see how some black people are? They uplift the bloodlines of rapists. 'My great/grandmother was Creole'.
Right...I bet your great great grandaddy ran through all the women in your family--then loaned them out to his friends....
Because that is most likely what happened, y'know? Matter fact, they used to have lavish functions to auction off or present mulatto/slave women to wealthy white aristocrats, i.e. Quadroon Balls. Those white men could not keep their hands off those women! They set them up in houses and basically whored those women out. High Priced whores but whores nonetheless.
....and some black people are so quick to hollar about Creole roots...
>>sigh<< Slave Logic is still affecting the stupid ones among us. I wish we could cast these morons out. Make them revoke their 'black card' but it can't be done...
Anyway Creole is just a name by some French people. A mulatto is a mulatto no matter where you come from---but they (creoles) used their name to distinguish themselves from others including black people. Almost as another ethnic group and they were/are not.
Anyway....a fair number (creoles) were a bunch of separatist turncoats and traitors. Which in my eyes makes them worse than the whites of their days. Although they were afforded many rights, especially Creole women---so I guess I cannot fault them as much. In those days being black was difficult. Some had the chance to 'pass' for white or distinguish themselves as something other than black....and took it. Self-preservation. People do drastic things when trying to survive.
I have creole roots as well---but I know for a fact my family never owned slaves. They were 'house slaves' up until they were freed. At that point they settled in the country and worked the lands in Texas.
--Native Americans took slaves at a point in history. This is PARTIALLY why so many black folks can claim native blood (including myself; my grandmama was Black Cherokee). Creek, Seminole, Cherokee--and I forget the rest, but they were the main ones who mixed with the Africans.
But it was nothing like the slavery of the whites in fact black folks lived independently. Some black folks became chiefs. Many times some Native tribes harbored runaways.

But---I don't think it matters. I could be wrong but a slave is a slave is a slave, to me. You can crucify the whites and muslims or arabs but others capitalized on the africans as well--and I just cannot get around that. No matter how humanely they are treated--it's still slavery. A slave is a slave.

Point is Africans of the Diaspora were exploited by all.
So...who should pay up?

Anyway--
I don't care much for apologies and I don't see why Virginia and other states organizations are constantly apologizing.

They couldn't apologize enough.
Also they weren't even there and they're probably doing it for political reasons so how heartfelt should I think they are?

Anyway I don't care for money.
In the first place you can't put a price on what happened.
They couldn't pay enough.
They just cannot.

Answer 2

Fact: The Catholic Church never officially taught slavery was morally right or officially endorsed slavery, although individual Catholics throughout the centuries have owned slaves.

Another fact: Catholics are not the only ones who participated in slavery and the slave trade. Atheists, Protestants, Pagans, etc all had some part. Are we all going to pay? Are you??

Paying reparation is impractical and impossible. There's no fair way to decide exactly who should get it and how the figures should be calculated.

It's better to change the world for good than to try to throw money at problems.

Answer 3

A test of the Bible shows that slavery is regular as everyday, or maybe promoted in the two the previous and New Testaments. I certainly have listed some verses in "materials". So the Church of england had no scriptural reason to abolish slavery, and each scriptural reason to oppose its abolition. The exchange in innovations-set might have come from materials different than Christianity; in spite of if many abolitionists might have professed Christianity, the belief of abolishing slavery might desire to have come from a compassionate view of humanity that would desire to have come from reason fairly than faith, in spite of if people who had those recommendations concept the recommendations have been Christian. The Christian church homes might have at last observed the ambient opinion of slavery, fairly than led it. the top of opposition of a few church homes to the emancipation of girls is advancing, and in line with possibility their opposition to the emancipation of homosexuals will at some point be a factor of the previous. enable's wish so.

Answer 4

Fact most if not all societies and cultures have owned slaves or have had members enslaved, throughout the course of history. Who is going to pay who???

Answer 5

I'd like to get back all that money my family gave to the Church with interest. The total must be into the billions.

Answer 6

Nope. If you were an actual slave then you should get money. However, if you are simply a free man/woman who is a descendant of that slave you get nothing. You were not a slave.

Answer 7

Fact- the slave trade was only profitable because Africans enslaved their fellow blacks and sold them to Europeans.

Answer 8

Those who were slaves should be compensated.

They would need to speak for themselves.

Where are they?

Peace!

Answer 9

Good idea!
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