Question for atheists?

Question

Do you believe matter has always existed in one form or another or that it was created by a natural force/natural forces?

Answer 1

Matter has always existed. See source link about vaculeons, the most basic "building block" of all nature. Nor does time have a beginning, only our perception of it, since these little guys have always been slowly bouncing into each other and creating chemical reactions.

The theory is that matter cannot be created from nothing; it is impossible. So there had to be something, somewhere in the universe, always. Never was a "before" the universe existed. There is nothing that could possibly ever exist if there was no mass. To have mass, there has to be at the very least a quark or nanoquark or whatever the tiniest particle on a molecule is... Now I see there is a quantum theory about vaculeons. (see source link)
There just had to be some mass / matter, even if it was infinitely before a "big bang". I'm guessing it may have been a vast number of individual "vaculeons" that got together and formed molecules - elements with actual properties - that eventually gravitated together, and according to their properties came into power all the physical laws.
I've heard a theory that the current "big bang" is just one of a series of endless "big bangs" before us, and still to come, as all the matter that exists is finally blown so far apart that it would be undetectable, then slowly all gravitates back into such a tight little ball that it all "big bangs" again... and again... scientific evidence says that the current universe is still expanding. We are just another recycle!
There are probably even an infinite number of other exploding / imploding universes far beyond ours.
It just makes no sense to me that space could be finite in any way; there is nothing outside of it. It's just that our perceptions are so finite that it is easier to imagine that wherever we think is "empty space", there is "nothing", and that there must be a "before" at some point. So imagine, what would have come before the "before"? Now imagine -there is no such thing as "before"! Spacetime is infinite, and is in actuality filled with these unimaginably tiny little potentialities they are calling "vaculeons".
The universe, space, could never be or have been "empty"; it had to be filled with something of potential to become what it is now. I think there is no such a thing as "nothing".
Boggles the mind, hm!

Answer 2

Matter is often created by natural forces, as particles pop into existence. Matter has also always existed, I believe, though of course with that one you're getting into the "no-one really knows" zone.

Answer 3

The idea that matter was "created" would raise a lot of new unanswered questions. I think that matter has existed as long as time has existed. Both is probably linked. I cannot give you final answers, and I do not "believe" anything, I'd rather leave the question open than accepting an unfounded answer.

Answer 4

I'm not sure of the quantum mechanics behind it but relativety would suggest that matter is constant - the only reason that would change is if the universe wasn't always the way it is.

I would speculate that matter always existed but in a different state, either more compacted (as suggested in big bang theory) or simply in a dispersed and balanced state before whatever triggered the change to how it is now.

Just my opinion. I'm no quantum physicist.

Answer 5

I have questions of my own. Why do christians often use dogmatic arrogance to assert their moral superiority over non-believers? Why can't christians ever seem to believe empirical data backed by sound scientific reason? What makes faith, not reasonable scientific observation, a valid basis for any form of scientific study? It seems as though once you go into something with preconceived notions, you'll see what you want to see and blind yourself to the other possibilities.
(I'm not sorry for the rant, I just believe if your gonna post a question like this, you must first know the subject well enough to understand how to respond. So believing you to be ignorant to the study of physics, I posed some other questions for you to answer so that I myself, might be able to understand what makes the christian scientist tick.)
P.S. NaturalBornKeiler has the best answer thus far.

Answer 6

Always Existed

Answer 7

Due to conservation of mass, matter cannot be created or destroyed. But this matter does need a source of existence, no? Matter can only change form and state but this changing of form and state obviously should have a beginning and not a series of infinite cause-and-effect chain of changes and changes. There has got to be a source for all matter and energy for it to occur in the universe, in the first place.

Answer 8

I don't have a clue. As far as I know, most physicists say that matter was formed very shortly after the big bang.

Answer 9

I have read that hydrogen is the fruit of all elements in the universe.. By fusion soem became helium then it goes to iron. The iron is dumbest elemnt in the universe.

I dont know if i pointed it out clearly. just read some science articles.

where does hydrogen came from... i dont know... if you tell me that it is created by God.....then

my question is Where does God came from?

Answer 10

Go back to school and study science again. Life could be a cosmic mistake, Maybe there is life on other planets that have their own belief systems, does that make you right and them wrong. Your god could be a advanced race who just seeded this planet for food stock, thats why the religion they started refers us to sheep!