Question for those who say the Rapture isn't in the Bible?

Question

Where do you get your information? What is this about the 1800's? I am really interested in knowing why you believe this? It's written in different places in the Bible. Revelations tells about it. So how could it not exist before 1800? Revelations is in the Bible...the Bible existed before 1800.
I DON'T want the opinions of those who just don't believe in any of the Bible. I'm not going to give your answer any attention anyway. I am just really interested in why people are saying this? I never heard it before.

The WHOLE book of Revelation is based on the Rapture and the second coming of Christ. I'm trying to get answers from you on why you don't believe it's in the Bible. I know it is.....I believe it will happen. Since I got the question of where I found it....just am offering my source.

Answer 1

At the end of the day, many people probably don't believe it, or vehemently seek to discredit it, because it sounds somewhat over-the-top. Be that as it may, there's no denying that it's actually documented in the bible (and talked about on more than one occasion). You'll find that eschatology is a study that yields very many varying viewpoints. It is, at last, up to you to reconcile within yourself what you think is true and what you believe to be false.

Answer 2

The book of Revelation tells of 2 groups of people who will be saved. The first group is the Little Flock of annointed Christians who will rule in heaven with Christ for 1000 years. The Bible says on account of these ones, the tribulation will be cut short--showing that some of them will still be alive on earth at that time (not raptured away). The second group is the Great Crowd of other sheep who will live on the earth. (The meek who will inherit the earth and live forever upon it). The earth will be destroyed as it was in the days of Noah--in those days the literal earth WAS NOT destroyed. Only the wicked people perished along with all the things they had trusted in instead of putting their trust in God. Today will be the same. Do not put your trust in teachings of men. If there was to be a rapture, the Bible would not only show it differently, but it would repeat the principles over and over because God knows we learn best through repetition and that is the way he teaches all other things.

Answer 3

There is no biblical support for a secret rapture of Christians, prior to the one time, triumphant return of Jesus Christ, on the Last Day.

Never has been. Never will be.

There is sustantial biblical support for everyone alive on earth being changed into glory, when Jesus returns on the Last Day, accompanied by all his angels and saints.

The secret rapture theory is what was developed and proposed in the 1800's for the very first time.

The "Left Behind" books popularized it, and the southern evangelicals really liked it, because it makes Christians seem extra special ... kind of like the "prosperity" gospel that's also popular today.

The two go together like the proverbial "peas and carrots" but unfortunately, neither is biblical.

The rest of Christianity still seems to hold the more traditional understanding of Christ's return on the Last Day, Satan being vanquished, flesh bodies being changed, heavenly souls getting their new resurrection bodies, the last judgment, and then ... who really knows?

Don't believe everything you hear from your preacher.

Do yourself a favor, read Exodus and see how God saves his people from an antichrist, how he cares for them and protects them, and how he does it all right here on good old planet earth.

Then compare the prophetic figures and great tribulation events in Revelation with many of those in Egypt during of Exodus, and see if you don't come away with a much more realistic sense of things.

And just in case I'm wrong ... can I have your car?

Answer 4

The as you call it rapture in the bible is a post tribulation rapture after the world has ended. Read it. The concept of the Pre tribulation or mid tribulation rapture came about in 1830 in Port Glasgow, Scotland, Margaret Macdonald expressed her belief that scripture taught that Christians would be raptured, or translated, from the earth before the Great Tribulation. This is the first time that anyone in Christian history had distinguished two stages of the Second Coming: the first stage, in which Christians are taken out, and the second stage, in which Jesus returns to earth. Later a Canadian named Darby picked up the idea with the secrets for the pretribulation rapture being hidden in the bible. Which led to sects like the Millerites trying to determine the date and climbing tree in white robes waiting for the rapture because they thought they had figured it out. It was never a part of Christian doctrine before these people (technically it still isn;t a part of Christian doctrine,) especially since Revelation was written to people of the Church of Asia in exile and about their freeing from persecution and a more personal metaphor for our internal struggle over sin, Apocolyptic literature was a common literary form in those days. This book was almost never included in the bible and has been constantly under threat of being taken out because 1. It goes against the New Testament in that it does not teach of Jesus and 2 it's danger of being abused for misinterpretation as an actual prophesy(like the rapture) instead of as a letter like Paul's letters. The only reason it was included was because the author was thought to be John the beloved disciple.

There are many great books both in Christian and intellectual history on the subject. Also google it wikipedia I believe has the history of the rapture doctrine. What is accepted as rapture for the most cases is our mystical union with God upon or death.

You could read it;s history in
The Cult of the Rapture
Roots of Fundementalism

But why did we write it if you are not going to give it any attention? Do you not want to know and understand what you say you believe in?

Answer 5

I have studied this very issue at great length and detail. If you claim this Pre-Tribulation Rapture theology is in the Bible, please give me the verses that explain how it all works. Not the one or two everyone knows you use....but where is the WHOLE thing described? I haven't found it.

I know all about 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, but this does not explain the whole "Left Behind Rapture" business as Fundamentalist Protestants teach it.

And I beg to differ with you my friend, but I have read the Book of Revelation piece by piece, broke it down, outlined it, and have written on it. You are mistaken. It says NOTHING remotely close to a Rapture, etc.

Prior to Darby teaching on the Rapture at the Powersourt Conference in the 1830's NO ONE in the Christian Church had ever heard it, taught it, or believed it as part of the faith. All this can be researched by yourself online.

I am a Christian. I go to Church as often as I can. I love Christ and I'm constantly reading through my Bible. I am not attacking Christianity or the Bible or anyone's Christian faith. I am attacking false teaching. We must pull our heads out and look for ourselves on this thing.

If you have solid and complete Biblical descriptions and teachings on all this Pre-Tribulation "Left Behind" Rapture theology, I beg you to send the Books, Chapters, and verses to me.

check out http://www.xlibris.com/ThereIsYetTime.html

P.S. Be Honest... Have you read the entire 22 Chapters of the Book of Revelation? By your answer, I tend to doubt it.

And YES, There will be a Second Coming of Christ, I agree. But the Tribulation saving Rapture is never mentioned in the least. Do you recall the part about the "harvest?" When He returns with His angels will come the "Harvest." The good crop is gathered into his barn and the chaff is thrown into the fire. What does this parable say to you? We will all be here, good and bad, when He returns. Thats it. Simple.

Answer 6

From what I understand, Revelations wasn't a big part of the bible until some man in the 1800s (can't remember his name) started to preach it and put alot of focus on it. I don't however believe it didn't exist until the 1800s, but it just wasn't given as much attention until then (1800s) til now.

Answer 7

How old is the earth itself? terrific evidence says on the threshold of four billion years. Your connection with carbon dating is ludicrous. Carbon dating purely works for flowers that are actually lifeless. Carbon 14 is radioactive. yet carbon 14 dating is defective over purely some thousand years because it relies upon on how lots carbon dioxide is in the ambience at any given age. The evidence shows this to be a variable. You reported Vishnu. that would desire to very nicely be yet another call for Noah. whilst did God create the universe? Unknown time in the some distance previous. modern-day concept is a huge Bang. yet on close examination that concept has to many holes. you're saying, "do not use the Bible..." Why not? The Bible is the oldest via some distance of any e book nicely-known. The historic previous recorded is going back some 6,000 years. stupid human beings think of up all kinds of stupid recommendations approximately issues they understand not something approximately. you do not differentiate between Christianity and Christendom. great distinction. silly to objective and use the words interchangeably. final analysis. Your questions, jointly as particularly interesting are very poorly concept out. Please locate out the thank you to think of till now asking questions that require thinking solutions.

Answer 8

Have you ever studied the origins of dispensationalism? Hang on a sec I will get you some links.
The word "rapture" comes from a little girl's fevered dream in the 1880's. The word "rapture" is found no where in the Bible.

http://www.monergism.com/directory/search.php?action=search_links_simple&search_kind=and&phrase=dispensationalism&B1=Go
http://www.soundofgrace.com/v7/n7/history_dispen_kh.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism
http://www.gospelplow.net/disp2.html
http://haigler.info/DispensationalismRefuted-04n17.htm


There, that should give you a basic understanding of the history and origin of the theory. I don't believe that whether or not you believe in a pre-tribulation rapture is a fundamental Christian doctrinal issue, meaning, I don't think it's anything we need to divide over. Blessings to you, here's a chocolate cookie.

Answer 9

The bible tells us in Matt 24 that as in the days of Noah so shall it be in the coming of the son of man...Of course destruction was coming on a world full of sin and violence like we have today but God gave Noah the warning.Just as he has given the church. Noah was saved and his family prior to the flood.This is given as a example...Lot was delivered from Sodom prior to its destruction this is also a type of the rapture.Most people dont even know what the tribulation is for? Its not for the church the church is not even here past Rev chapter 4. Yeah the word rapture is not in the bible but neither is the word trinity

Answer 10

First (and I know I'm being anal retentive here, but oh well) there is no book in the bible called "Revelations", it's Revelation.

Second, where exactly in the bible does it state that there is going to be a rapture of the church?

Answer 11

Wrong!!! The word rapture is not in the bible. Wrong, Revelation is about the return of Jesus, the resurection opf the dead, one and two, and Jesus setting up his goverment here on earth. Read Revelation yourself and stop listening to what other tell you it say's.