if you're not a believer now, would you change your mind if you found out that Jesus Christ died for everyones

Question

sins and everyone is going to heaven

my point was(some need help); would it be better if you didnt have to believe, but you would still go to heaven. everyone would. no difference apparently?

Answer 1

In short, if I found out that the believers were right, would I believe that the believers are right?

Did you put any thought at all into your question?

Answer 2

Not really.
I am impressed with the Unitarian Universalist church, and in a sense, the idea that you pose does resonate with their beliefs.

Still, the concept of Jesus needing to have died so that everyone would go to heaven, would seem to indicate that God had desired that in the first place. As such, there would be no need for a hell, and for that matter, an atonement in the first place. It sort of contradicts almost all of Christianity.

Then again, if everyone goes to heaven, why is there a need to practice the religion of Christianity in the first place?

Answer 3

mmm...substitution sacrifice.

The Christ myth was invented so that people would stop slaughtering animals. Ever notice how all the pleasing aroma of slaughtered animals in the Old Testament goes away with the "Final Sacrifice" of Jesus in the New Testament? I wonder why that is...

Animal and human sacrifice is a barbaric, ridiculous notion from the Dark Ages. Why are some Christians so immune to this realization with respect to Christ?

Answer 4

Not all believers are Christians. People believe in many things, after all.

As for Jesus.. according to my religious beliefs, there is not such thing as "dying for sins." Again, according to my faith, each person is responsible for their own sins, for atonement and/or trying to atone. We can't pass that responsibility onto someone else, no matter how willing that person may be.

And that "everyone is going to heaven" thing? My faith teaches that the righteous of all faiths will be with Hashem in the world-to-come. We don't believe in "Hell" or any other place of eternal punishment at all.

Answer 5

As a disciple of Jesus, why is it in the christian religion no one wants to take personal responsibility for their own failures? Jesus was "murdered" and this neanderthal teaching that has been going on pegging Jesus as a sacrificial Lamb and "blood" cleansing for the last 17 centuries is "blasphemy" and of the devil. When will people SEE we are not "apes" anymore and quit being so BLIND.... Behavior and changing it is our own "personal" endeavor to achieve and theres not MIRACLE other than making the necessary efforts to accomplish it. It's the reason so many of "bad" behaviors have this "revolving" door in christianity and "why" it is so POPULAR. I, personally lived on the streets for "8 1/2 years" and was an alcoholic and drug addict for 20, and a "part-time" christian for 30, when it was "convienent" to feed my face, until I realized that I "lived" the ways I did because I would not accept the blame for my own lousy behaviors. Jesus is there ONLY for those who MAKE the EFFORTS to do for THEMSELVES. Read your bible again and find out what he said about the LAZY.........

Answer 6

Okay, what sense does this make? I do not believe that Jesus died for mine or anyone else's sins. It makes NO sense that God would impregnant a virgin, and make this man die on a cross just so he, all powerful could decide to forgive everyone. What sense does it make? Why couldn't he just forgive everyone without some stupid sacrifice? It's not like Jesus's suffering really did anything significance accept sate God's greed for blood and suffering.

Answer 7

No way. The whole human sacrifice of Jesus IS one of the reasons I reject Christianity in the first place as is this ludicrous notion of needing to be saved from one's 'sins' because you are born evil and need to be 'washed in the blood of the lamb'.

Answer 8

I honestly don't mean to be rude, but... *yawn*

You can't honestly believe that there's anyone in the Western world who isn't already aware of Christianity.

So you're really showing us nothing new, and you're not a persuasive enough speaker to carry it off. If C.S. Lewis can't convince people, what makes you think YOU have a chance?

Answer 9

Or because of everyones sins, and in a true act of love never turned his back even when he was betrayed? Is it literal or was he, along with other prophets trying to show us something...?

Answer 10

If everyone goes to heaven then it will just be earth basically reincarnation so your saying Jesus is Budda

Answer 11

ridiculous... I do NOT need some insane religion to tell me about jesus christ. I am unafilliated and I beleif in his true message which by the way is distorted beyond reason by the entire array of 'christian' faiths.