Leviticus 20:9 Says: "If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head.
Clearly Jesus does not set this command aside:
Matthew 15:4-7 For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'5 ' But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,' 6 he is not to 'honor his father' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
Yet Christians never seem to obey God's command to kill rebellious kids. Christians apparently set their own moral judgment above the word of God and Jesus that many insist is infallible and inerrant and carries a moral imperative for all to obey. They do this on many issues but seem not to notice when they do this. Why?
2007-03-26
10:18:29
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Eds, you can't simply pull out the interpretation that suits your purpose of the moment and misinterpret it to make your religion less offensive. The OT verse is unequivocal in any language and htere isn't a single exegetical authority that agrees with your isogesis. Show some integrity.
2007-03-26
10:29:51 ·
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Chris P. This the OT is out thing is something you all pull out to suit your purposes, but you ignore Jesus own words in the New Testament. The principle is that what is upheld in the NT still counts. Jesus homself says that command is God's words and calls those who set it aside "HYPOCRITES!"
So who's not getting it here? You're the one setting aside the words of your own savior IN THE NEW TESTAMENT!.
2007-03-26
10:33:08 ·
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Cricket- Matthew 5:17-19 (King James Version) 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Christians play with this passage and say all was fulfiled in the crucifixion. But this cannot be Jesus meaning in this passage because heaven and earth did not pass away before the crucifixion, now did they?
2007-03-26
10:39:55 ·
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Spend a few minutes looking up Jesus nick. Does the New Covenant free you to commit murder? You will of course say, no because Jesus reaffirms the Decalogue in his coversation with the rich young ruler. Well look above Skippy. Jesus "reaffirms" the death peanly for sassy kids in the exact same way. So sorry. not good enough. Think harder.
2007-03-26
10:42:56 ·
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Castro, you are mistaken. Jesus did not set forth one set of God's commands for Jews and a different set of God's commands for Christians who did not even exist yet. Read Jesus' words for yourself. The law is the law. the New Covenant removes the death penalty for sin. It does not nullify the commandments according to Jesus. Maybe according to Paul, or the anonymous writer of Hebrews, but then Paul isn't God is he, and why would you accept the word of an unknown author of Hebrews over the words of Jesus recorded in the gospels? You do this for the same reason Christians always do this. They treat scripture like a smörgåsbord that they obey when it suits them and ignore when it doesn't, but still hypocritically insist it is all God's infallible word.
2007-03-26
10:47:04 ·
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Because Christians only take literally those things which are convenient for them. :)
2007-03-26 10:23:43
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answered by Ferret 4
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If I am not mistaken, those rules and regulations back in Old Testament, in Leviticus, were generally for the Jews. It was a way to keep his people in order, until he sent his son Jesus to save the world, not just the Jews, but for us Gentiles as well. Remember when Jesus said in New Testament, how he was here to fulfill the laws, I believe it was the 10 commandments, not the laws of back of the day in Old Testament, however in the book of Acts, I do remember that when disciples were spreading the Word all over, they were instructed to tell the Gentiles to accept Christ, and to flee from sexual immorality, abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals. They didn't bust out with the old laws and made them follow them in order to be a Christian.
2007-03-26 10:41:05
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answered by Castro_Rios 1
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I think you misunderstood the passage. What Jesus was talking about was how the Pharisees liked to follow the law to the letter, but did not do it for God. They did it for their own villification.
He was just throwing their own hyprocrisy back on them.
Anyway, of course Christians don't kill their rebellious children anymore...or at least they SHOULDN'T. That's because the New Testament, which can be considered a new COVENANT, does not encourage it.
We also don't sacrifice animals anymore, and we can eat whatever we want.
I'm just going to ignore the rest of your question.
2007-03-26 10:32:08
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answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7
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The command was NOT to KILL the Children. Lets read what the scriptures say from Matthew 15:4-7 (King James Version) 4For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
It clearly does NOT say to KILL the Children it says they will "die the death". Which means that they must repent or be in sin and possibly end up in HELL. You are reading what you want it to say NOT what it actually says. Read and study GOD's WORD then begin again. Have a great day.
Thanks,
Eds, Christian
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Jason & Tabby,
He certainly is wrong by using Old Testament and by choosing a poor translation of the New TEstament Scriptures. Read on...
Thanks Chris & Cricket. You are correct in your statements. BUT he picked a poor translation in the New Testament also from Matthew 15:4-7. He should have used the KJV and then read it through.
2007-03-26 10:26:38
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answered by Eds 7
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Now wait toddler. Senator Barbra Boxer, on the Senate floor, reported that she felt that as long as 4 hairs remained contained in the beginning canal you need to freely kill a baby. Now she is a liberal and one among your individual type, yet you do no longer merchandise to HER theory of a teen's place in a house. Why the surprising distaste for somebody else's ? in case you freely settle for the killing of one baby, why does a individual's political association exchange the condition?
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answered by ilsa 4
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When are you going to come out of the old testament?
Hello! We are in the new testament.
The old testament law is out.
How come you can't get it?
I know; he has blinded your eyes and stopped up your ears so seeing you will not perceive and hearing you will not understand.
2007-03-26 10:27:45
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answered by chris p 6
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Spend a few minutes looking up new convenant.
Hebrews chapter 8
2007-03-26 10:37:53
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answered by NickofTyme 6
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I am sure christians say don't take it literally, but that is what it says and they claim it is the word of god. So the death rows will be full of christians if they followed the word.
2007-03-26 10:21:48
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answered by Jason Bourne 5
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Probably not quite as quickly as the muslims will kill their women for being, well, women. Kill the kids, you can have more kids. Kill the women, no more kids.
2007-03-26 10:34:38
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answered by duker918 7
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My folks would have to kill all seven of their kids, because none of us follow their religion anymore.
2007-03-26 10:26:42
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answered by Guernica 3
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