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(Set aside the whole dying on the cross thing... which isn't cross-documented anyways)
If jesus had the power of god (or was god) then weren't his miracles a little lame?
Healing a few blind people... turning water into a fruity beverage... walking on water.

Why not heal all the blind in the world.
Or make the world's deserts into lush forrests and solve world hunger.
Or cause all the handicapped or sick to be healed
Or any number of miraculous deeds that history would be remembered; by not just one book full of contradictions that even its followers can't agree upon.
I mean. . . he was supposed to be god and we can't even verify his existence.
Leave a mark dude!
Your miracles are less spectacular than a magician hired for a kid's birthday party.

2007-03-26 09:07:07 · 43 answers · asked by KryptonOne 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Gary - That would be kind of selfish of me then

2007-03-26 09:12:14 · update #1

43 answers

Ignore the xian robots... all they can do is insult... very christ like huh?....

You have a very valid point. You are not comparing your powers to Jesus. Jesus made the claim that he is god. By doing so he should then prove that claim. Having someone write years after your death that you healed a unnamed person in some unnamed area is not proof. What is the name of this healed person? How do we know he was not some impostor? Where are the unbiased witnesses? All of Jesus tricks have been reproduced before. Benny Hinn claims he heals blind people too and he claims to resurrect the dead. Do we just believe him or his followers or do we look for evidence?

A god could do much more than heal a few people. Eliminate cancer, that is a god-like trick. It cannot be faked.

2007-03-26 09:22:35 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

You are attempting to establish a minimum qualification for an event to be a "miracle". Could there not also be a maximum? A "miracle" requires knowledgable witnesses. A ubiquitous "miracle", such as a sudden, universal curing of a disease would not be a "miracle" because there would be no obvious cause. It would just be a heck of a thing. To be a miracle, people have to know WHY it is happening. It has to mean something to the observers. The gospels point out that Jesus was unable to perform miracles in places where people didn't believe in them. A miracle is not a stunt, it is a sign, a validation of pre-existing faith.

"God" could "fix" everything "wrong" with the world so that we would never have any problems. We would all always be happy idiots. But the physical world as configured will always have conflicts and collisions, solid, psychological and/or social. We learn to negotiate these conflicts, adopt a relationship to them, learn to live with them. That's what learning is, figuring out how to cope with problems, relating with the world we find ourselves in.

The existence of God is problematic. If there were definitive proof of an omnipotent, omniscient being, we'd all be working out a deal (and some do try). But without proof, there's no way to determine that the idea isn't pure fantasy. Yet everyone has their own standard of proof. For some it's a feeling or an allegorical experience, or the testimony of another. For others it's an artifact for which all other explanations have been eliminated. And invincible ignorance can exist at either end of the spectrum.

No matter how big the crowd, minds change one at a time. Change is encountered, not imposed. If the entire world changes, the former situation becomes unreal, like the flat world "disappearing" with Galileo's observations. No cancer? Well, we had mistakenly thought it was a disease at the time...

So the miracles, if that's what they were, would have to be on a small, comprehensible scale, simply so we could realize them. God, as we understand "God", must be so great that a genuinely god-level act would be indistinguishable from a natural phenomenon. It would alter the actual framework of reality and us with it. Too big to see. "God" could be constantly manipulating absolutely everything, in real time, but there's no way we could tell. We have to work on our own scale. And so do "miracles".
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["Cross-documented"? You didn't really mean to say that, did you? That's really bad!]

2007-03-26 10:03:13 · answer #2 · answered by skepsis 7 · 0 1

They weren't lame for the lame. But in this day of computers, holograms, pseudo-reality and satellites going to Saturn, I suppose they must seem a bit jaded to a sophisticate such as you.

Of course, if you want the world's adulation, you've got to impress with numbers, and publicity, and sound-bites that don't require any thought. No wonder Jesus chose to come when he did! Our present-day world is not worthy of him.

The reason why Jesus was selective in doing only a few miracles was that if he'd healed on a massive, impressive scale, everybody would have started following him - for all the wrong reasons. When he fed the 5,000 with a few little fish and loaves, they loved him for that and came back for more. But they weren't too keen on trying to live out his sermon on the Mount. Are you? No, I thought not.

What you are really saying is, "If I was Jesus, I'd....." what? Heal all the blind in the world? Jesus said, "If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit." Think about that.

2007-03-26 09:25:49 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

#1. Let us see you perform even one of the least of these miracles.
#2. His death on the cross was not a miracle, but a fulfillment of prophecy.
#3. He came to do the work of the Father, and even more importantly, He did not come here to make this world a better place to live, but to die for the sins of man and to set up the kingdom of God. He said " I go to prepare a place for you."
#4. It seems to me that He has been remembered. The Bible is STILL on the bestseller's list. I guess that Atheist Weekly would have been your choice of recorded proof, hmmm ?
#5. There has never been a bigger or better mark left by anyone in all the annals of time. Salvation for those that accept it. Praise God!
#6. If you can find just one magician to perform any of these things, let me know.Birthday parties would be small potatoes for an illusionist of this caliber.
#7. If you can get your arguments a little more challenging, let me know that, too.

2007-03-26 09:28:34 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

If that is your opinion of Jesus' Miracles then you miss the point. The point of his miracles were to give credence to His teachings.

You see, if you have a good theological perspective, which Jews of Christ's time would have had, you would know that the "Prophet like Moses" was one who would come with miracles such as Healing the Lame, Giving Sight to the Blind, and Raising the Dead.

In Isaiah 42 it talks about the coming Messiah as one who will open eyes that are blind, set captives free, and prisoners released from dungeons of darkness.
There are many other places as well which speak of the Messiah

If you were as familiar with Old Testament prophecy as the Jewish people were, then you would understand the purposes for each of his miracles

i.e. healing of a leprous man (not leprosy as you know it, but leprosy was a skin condition which reflected being under judgment from God) was a miracle which would witness to Jesus as being the Son of God. Only one other place in all of Scripture is a leper healed, and that is only by God Himself. To take away the judgment of God like that would have shown Jesus to be more than human to the Jewish people.

Therefore, his miracles were exactly what God had told the prophets of before-hand.

2007-03-26 09:27:32 · answer #5 · answered by J.R. 3 · 1 1

That's pretty callous for some who can not understand what He stood for. He was not about theatrics. As a society, what would anyone have learned if Jesus automatically fixed the world's problems?! He was not God and never claimed to be. He was empowered by the Holy Ghost. So bascially what you are saying is that it is not enough for you that his blood was spilled for you and that He felt the ENTIRE world's sin of everyone who ever lived and will live. Oh no. That is not enough. But you also want Him to fix the problems humans were responsible for creating in the first place? That seems a little selfish, don't you think?

Having every be factually evident would negate the very thing God has been trying to accomplish - love and faith by free will.

2007-03-26 09:16:26 · answer #6 · answered by Theresa B 2 · 1 1

I'm sorry to hear that you think walking on water, calming the sea, raising from the dead, etc. etc are "lame" miracles. Unfortunately I believe you are missing the point of why Jesus performed His miracles. He didn't do it to solve the problems of the world, rather He performed these miracles to lead people to a relationship with God through the Son Jesus Christ. Humans tend to need some proof more often then not, so miracles were used as a tool to get their attention. Not only that but we live on earth for such a short period of time, we get to experience a the perfect world once we go to heaven.

2007-03-26 09:18:51 · answer #7 · answered by Got Questions? I've Got Answ 3 · 1 2

Actually his resurrection is well documented. I have in my possession a book called what leading lawyers say about the ressurection. It contains some of the leading minds in the legal circles from past and present. They believe the ressurection story is a reliable told story which would hold up in a courtroom. These names include Hugo Grotius, Sir Lionel Luckhoo, Simon Greenleaf, Lord Hailsham, Lord Lyndhurst, Wendell R. Byrd and a whole slew of others. The resurrection story is told in four different gospels. So there you have four differing accounts of events witnessed by those who knew him well. On top of that when you can perfrom any of these miracles then you'll be in a better position to criticize.

2007-03-26 09:17:11 · answer #8 · answered by Edward J 6 · 2 1

the only factor lame is this question. Jesus died for us. particular, even for you! evaluate the certainty that 11 of his 12 Apostles died for believing in Him, besides. to not point out the hundreds upon hundreds of believers after them. do not you think of the Apostles might have given up long previously going to their loss of life, if there wasn't some good info, maximum excellent them to place their faith in Him? some thing like growing to be from the ineffective might do it for me. He additionally fulfilled 3-hundred-fifty bible prophecies. the percentages of one guy doing so might make it a lot greater probable for you in looking 1 / 4 in a community the dimensions of Texas, coated with silver funds, 2 ft thick! the only people who think of Jesus is lame are people that have on no account given Him of undertaking. Take a good seem at Jesus. he's easy to discover, and he will on no account bypass away you. God bless!

2016-10-19 23:46:24 · answer #9 · answered by schwalm 4 · 0 0

The reason of The Second member of The Godhead Jesus Christ was to show us without us being destroyed as much of God as we could stand and live, when He came the people were looking for a earthly rulde to break the power of the romans that were there He was not then neither now the ruler they were expecting, neither did He do things there way OR YOURS, He is God not you or me, and the greatest miracle He ever did or will do is change a sin sick heart so instead of being bound for Hell and to die forever we may "IF" we meet the conditions upon which life is offered live forever with Him allow HIM to be God not you, free bible lessons learn more www.itiswritten.com OR www.amazingfacts.org email me also wgr88@yahoo.com God bless

2007-03-26 09:14:39 · answer #10 · answered by wgr88 6 · 2 2

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