let me ask muslims a question ok?

Question

now the koran speaks about 7 heavens. this same concept can be found in the zorastrian holy book VENDIDAD. now zorastrianism is a very old faith and their book was written before mohomed was even born. and dont forget that the zorastrianism had its advent in persia which is iran today. how come islam robbed this 7 heaven story from the zorastrians?

all evidence point that the koran was written by the persian kings (sassanid rulers) to outdo greek influence in iran. so they took this 7 heaven story off the VENDIDAD and wrote it in the koran.
as a former muslim myself i believe this happened, and it goes for almost every story in the koran

did you know this fact friends?

muslims can abuse me but they cant prove me wrong
why so?

Answer 1

Well dear there is nothing to abuse you, and you are always invited to clear your views about Islam. First part Quran speaks about 7 skys, that God made 7 skys. May the translation you read translated it as heaven, Arabic word "SAMAWAT" is used that means "Skys" and even if u say heavens in Muslims view Heaven has various stages, just as v have different positions based on your qualification and performance, the highest place is for Prophets, including Jesus (Peace be upon them)....and it makes sence also a person who used to worship day and night controls his bad worldly wishes for the sake of his Lord should be rewarded more than one who just wasted his life agreed???? Now other confusion that Islam has robed some thing from some book, Yes Quran has referred many historical events Happend to Previous Prophets and Previous Followers of them, similar to bible it also refers to Solomon (Peace be upon Him) etc. So dear history is never stolen its just spoken to teach us the lesson from the Past, the reason why God destroyed the people of Noha and Lout etc etc. Plus Quran also refers to some incidents of history that are never been recorded in any book. Please get some time to read in Detail and in and Understanding way the Message of Quran its concise book but covers every thing u may think off. Whatever a human mind cant understand from Quraan our Prophet(P.B.U.H) has explained it so if u add both and then think of any single and minor issue of life u will get reply. Thats why i often say that no religion no book teaches basic ways of life like how to talk how to walk how to eat how to drink.......come and see Islam it has solution of every question strikes your mind. I apologize if any thing u didnt like in my reply....and your are always wellcome to ask any further question even with abusing me:-) best wishes

Answer 2

The theory of mentioning the 7 heavens in Quran, and by the zorastrian holy book VENDIDAD; only proves that the VENDIDAD might be a Holy book that's been altered and changed by Humans, and don't prove that Quran is Fake.

Quran states that there were many books and Messengers we know nothing about them.

Muhammad was illiterate. It's really Illogic that an illiterate person knows about such book and copies it, I speak 3 languages and never heared of this book.

Holy Books don't alter each other, They're an UPGRADE for each other, by your deniable logic, we can say that the Bible robbed the old testament by stating that there's a God!

I might not know that book, but my Grandma is persian, and in this ancient time, persians worshipped The Holy Fire as they called it.. There's was no idea, neither in their or the Greeks Methology about heaven.. Only death and the Empire of dead ruled By Pluto for Greeks and the fire power for Persians.

What you stated is not a fact, and before considering us your friends, stop cloning the others as this is really childish...

Answer 3

The word samaa' used in the Qur'an also is used to desribe the heaven, atmosphere. And it is a scientific fact, i.e. something 100% true, that the atmosphere consists of 7 parts. If this is truth, how can it be stolen? This is not an article, a fairy tale, which can be only unique, so that it can be stolen!

Answer 4

My muslim acquaintances look particularly chilled out. The husband drives a taxi and smiles and waves while he sees me, i do not believe i have noticeable him purchasing fertiliser just lately. Most muslims are commonly fully fekked off with the nutjob minority and the media who make each person else believe of them as terrorists. Most men and women desire to get by way of and be left on my own its no longer rocket technological know-how. And its no longer simply muslims who take offence, you sehould have heard the debate over The Life of Brian, despite the fact that the pope didn't trouble a fatwa.

Answer 5

Religon has often borrowed from manyy sources; all of them but as long as the message is the same what does it matter. Christianity has its origins in Judasim ; hinduism and budhism are interlinked, judasim itself is linked to other other Abrahamic religions such as Christianity, Islam, as well as Samaritanism and the Bahá'í Faith. Muslim or not what purpose does your question serve? Do you suffer from an inferiority complex? You have made your choice so have others; no human being as the right to look into the soul of another and dare judge.

Answer 6

First of all cite your sources:

Second, the seven heaven is talking about the seven layer of the atmosphere.

Muslims believe that there holy book was once a true revelation from god to there prophets so it's no surprise that it might have similarities.




Besides, there is no evidence that it was copied from anywhere. if it did it would have mistakes like the other books.

another point is the the prophet mohamed(PBUH) didn't know how to read or write.


I can go one with the reasons why you theory is incorrect.


better luck next time.

Answer 7

do you know that qur'an is not the only book of islam?

islam have Suhuf-i-Ibrahim,zabur,tawrat and injil before qur'an.

now let me ask you,are you sure zorastrian holy book vendidad not copied from Suhuf-i-Ibrahim or zabur or tawrat or injil about that 7heavens.

you not sure right?

Answer 8

You say that we cannot prove you wrong, Why dont you you first prove yourself correct?

Answer 9

well someone mis informed you, good for you to ask though, have a good day lady.

Answer 10

This is the true story of seve heavens and it is called Al-Israa´ and Al-Mi’raj

The last days of the Makkan phase of the Prophet’s life are noted for alternate fortunes ranging between two extremes: gradual success and continual persecution. However, glimpses of propitious lights were looming on the distant horizon, to ultimately materialize in the event of the Prophet’s Night Journey to Jerusalem and then Ascension through the spheres of the heavens.



As for its exact date, it is still controversial and no common consent has been reached. However, the majority of jurists is in favour of a date between 16-12 months prior to migration to Madinah. The following is a epitome of the details of that miraculous event narrated on the authority of Ibn Al-Qayyim.

The Messenger of Allâh (Peace be upon him) was carried in body from the Sacred Mosque in Makkah to the Distant Mosque in Jerusalem on a horse called Al-Buraq in the company of Gabriel, the archangel. There he alighted, tethered the horse to a ring in the gate of the Mosque and led the Prophets in prayer. After that Gabriel took him to the heavens on the same horse. When they reached the first heaven Gabriel asked the guardian angel to open the door of heaven. It was opened and he saw Adam, the progenitor of mankind. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) saluted him and the other welcomed him and expressed his faith in Muhammad’s Prophethood. He saw the souls of martyrs on his right and those of the wretched on his left.

Gabriel then ascended with the Prophet to the second heaven, asked for opening the gate and there he saw and saluted John, son of Zachariah (Yahya bin Zakariya) and Jesus, son of Mary. They returned the salutation, welcomed him and expressed their faith in his Prophethood. Then they reached the third heaven where they saw Joseph (Yusuf) and saluted him. The latter welcomed the Prophet and expressed faith in his Prophethood. The Prophet, in the company of Gabriel, then reached the fourth heaven where he met the Prophet (Idris) and saluted him. Prophet Enoch returned the salutation and expressed faith in his Prophethood. Then he was carried to the fifth heaven where he met the Prophet Aaron (Harun) and saluted him. The latter returned the salutation and expressed faith in his Prophethood. In the sixth heaven he met Moses (Musa) and saluted him. The latter returned the salutation and expressed faith in his Prophethood. Muhammad (Peace be upon him) on leaving, saw that Moses began to weep. He asked about the reason. Moses answered that he was weeping because he witnessed a man sent after him as a Messenger (Muhammad) who was able to lead more of his people to the Paradise than he himself did. Then Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) reached the seventh heaven and met Abraham (Ibrahim) (Peace be upon him) and saluted him. The latter returned the salutation and expressed faith in his Prophethood. Then he was carried to Sidrat-al-Muntaha (the remotest lote tree) and was shown Al-Bait-al-Ma‘mûr [(the much frequented house) which is like the Ka‘bah (Sacred House) encompassed daily by seventy thousand angels, so that the angels who once encompassed it would not have their turn again till the Resurrection]. He was then presented to the Divine Presence and experienced the thrill of witnessing the Divine Glory and Manifestation at the closest possible propinquity. There the Lord revealed unto His servant that which He revealed, and ordained fifty daily prayers for him. On his return, he spoke to Moses that his followers had been enjoined to pray fifty times a day. Moses addressing the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: “Your followers cannot perform so many prayers. Go back to your Lord and ask for a remission in number.” The Prophet (Peace be upon him) turned to Gabriel as if holding counsel with him. Gabriel nodded, “Yes, if you desire,” and ascended with him to the Presence of Allâh. The All-Mighty Allâh, Glory is to Him, made a reduction of ten prayers. He then descended and reported that to Moses, who again urged him to request for a further reduction. Muhammad (Peace be upon him) once more begged his Lord to reduce the number still further. He went again and again in the Presence of Allâh at the suggestion of Moses for reduction in the number of prayers till these were reduced to five only. Moses again asked him to implore for more reduction, but he said: “I feel ashamed now of repeatedly asking my Lord for reduction. I accept and resign to His Will.” When Muhammad(Peace be upon him) went farther, a Caller was heard saying: “I have imposed My Ordinance and alleviated the burden of My servants.”



Some significant suggestive incidents featured the ‘Night Journey’ of the Prophet, of which we could mention:

The Prophet’s breast was cleft by Gabriel, his heart extracted and washed with the water of Zamzam —a sacred spring in Makkah.

In the same context, there were brought to him two gold vessels. There was milk in one, while the other was full of wine. He was asked to choose either of them, so he selected the vessel containing milk and drank it. He (the angel) said: “You have been guided on Al-Fitrah or you have attained Al-Fitrah. Had you selected wine, your nation would have been misled.” [It is a symbolic way of saying that good and evil in the form of milk and wine were brought before the Prophet and he instinctively made a choice for the good. It is very difficult to render the Arabic term ‘Fitrah’ into English. It denotes the original constitution or disposition, with which a child comes into this world, as contrasted with qualities or inclinations acquired during life; besides it refers to the spiritual inclination inherent in man in his unspoilt state].

The Prophet (pbuh) told that he saw two manifest rivers, — the Nile and the Euphrates — and two hidden ones. It appears that the two manifest rivers, the Nile and the Euphrates, symbolically describe the area in whose fertile valleys, Muhammad’s Message will settle, and the people whereof will always remain the adherent bearers of Islam that will be passed on from generation to another. They can by no means suggest that they well up from the Garden.

He had the opportunity to see Malik, the guardian of Hell, with a cheerless frowning face. Therein, he saw the Hell dwellers, of whom were those who unjustly eat up the property of the orphans. They have flews similar to those of camels, swallowing red-hot stones and then issuing out of their backs. There were also the people who take usury with bellies too big to be able to move around; they are trodden by the people of Pharaoh when these are admitted into Hell. In the same abode, he saw the adulterers offered tasty fatty meat and rotten smelly one but they make option for the latter. The licentious women were also there hanging from their breasts.