Why *NOT* pass Jessica's Law?

Question

We need to keep child predators off the streets and away from our children. Why would anyone be against a 25-year minimum? Frankly, I think they should be executed, but why not at least lock them up where they can't harm another child?

I'm sincerely interested in hearing the opposing point of view. And please - no politicizing. BOTH parties have pedophiles - neither side is *any* better than the other.

This should be a non-partisan issue.

Sorry - some links:
http://www.jmlfoundation.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica's_Law
http://www.projectsafekids.org/jessica/index.htm

I think those should be non-biased enough to please most people.

Short Bus, so you're okay with baby rapists getting probation or maybe a year in jail? I'm not!

Chi, you know I respect your point of view, but sadly, we cannot rely on the judiciary to protect American children. Just look at Vermont....

Answer 1

You want facts about 911 being an inside job??
Interestingly, the burden of proof is no longer on the "conspiracy theorists" but on those who have stood by the government's official claim that 19 hijackers with plastic box-cutters financed by Bin Laden, out smarted the CIA, FBI, NSA, FAA, The Pentagon, and our Multi Trillion Dollar High Tech Military by crashing 4 planes without any intervention.

The following is fact and is irrefutable:

FACT: Bin Laden is NOT wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks. Check out the FBI web site. Reason? They don't have sufficient evidence to convict him. Perhaps this is why Bush said he really doesn't care if we catch him or not.

FACT: There are hundreds of televised claims from the morning of the attacks saying that witnesses heard or felt explosions prior to the collapse of the towers. These include firefighters, police, news reporters, security guards, employees of the WTC and civilians.

FACT: 47 story - WTC 7, we are told, collapsed from fire alone. This was unprecedented for a concrete and steel frame building. Furthermore, it fell symmetrically at free fall speed. Science and deductive reasoning will easily support the cause of this collapse as DEMOLITION. Fire does not have the energy to do this. Besides, Larry Silverstein declared on TV that they “pulled” building 7.

FACT: The steel from WTC was shipped overseas before an investigation was even opened. This is the greatest destruction of evidence and malpractice in the history of forensics.

FACT: Thousands of first responders have been afflicted and some have even died from respiratory failure. The government will not support investigations into the many reports which show that these heroes have micronized steel, glass, and concrete in their lungs. Fire, and the collapse from gravity would not produce this type of dust. Demolitions, however, supports the evidence.

FACT: We were told that NORAD didn't intercept any of the planes that day. This spans from about 8:24 A.M, the time of the first report of a hijacking, to 10:06, when the last plane crashed in Shanksville Penn. NORAD has a prior track record of intercepting planes within minutes. Standard Operating Procedure was not followed that day. The Bush Administration changed their story several times. We must also look at the fact that President Bush ordered Cheney to take control over NORAD the morning of the attacks.

FACT: The investigation into 9/11 was initially opposed by the Bush Administration. The 9/11 families pressed for one. They got it, but with remarkable conditions. The total costs of the investigation, including the NIST report, was only $16 million. The cost to investigate the Space Shuttle crash - $50 million. The cost to investigate Clinton - $42 million. In other words, the greatest failure of our defenses deserved less money than the shuttle and Clinton's perjury. What an insult to the 9/11 families and the loss of their loved ones.

FACT: No one has been fired for the failures of 9/11.

FACT: Right before the attack a spike in “put options” on Boeing, United Airlines, and American Airlines increased dramatically and was never investigated. Millions are still unclaimed. This indicates people knew in advance. Why didn’t the FBI check out these leads?

FACT: In August 6, 2001 A Public Daily Briefing Memo that was titled BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN THE US was brought forward. Yet prior to its declassification, we were told by Rice and Fleisher that there were no warnings. Had this news been made public, couldn't travelers, law enforcement, and airline workers have been a little more guarded or informed to notice something that day? Wouldn't we have guessed right away that the first report of a hijacking was indeed a terrorist? Or would we have dismissed it as "one bad pilot" and continued to read "My Pet Goat" while America was attacked?

FACT: When the United States is under attack the first measure is to secure the President.
The entire nation knew 2 weeks in advance that President Bush would be at Booker Elementary Grade School. Why did his body guards and secret service men let him remain at this location for 20 minutes after the attack? Holding the book “My Pet Goat” upside down while he tried to address a bunch of 5th grade students?

The bottom line is - If the deaths of 3000 people occurred under the control of a corporation, people would have been brought up on charges of criminal negligence. Immediately! Despite the growing movement and mounting evidence into the WTC collapses, the government still has made up its mind that it is fire that brought these buildings down and that 9/11 was simply a failure of imagination. They feel no one is to blame. This was the conclusion they had prior to the investigation. What the 9/11 Commission produced is the anti-thesis of the scientific method. Much of the evidence was outright omitted. Since they determined the conclusion prematurely. Do you understand?

If you were an underwriter at an insurance company, or an architectural engineer, or a fire marshal, wouldn't you want to know what really happened in these buildings? If you were a pilot, or an FAA employee, wouldn't you want to know which NORAD employee stood down, failed to requisition intervention or just plain messed up that day?

To dismiss the overwhelming evidence that explicitly shows how hundreds of questions remain unanswered suggests a cover-up by our government. Conservative thinking has taught us to keep government in check 100% of the time.

More and more people are joining the 9/11 truth movement. We are unstoppable. To deny the smidgeon of facts presented here and the many others unmentioned is akin to being like those who have denied the Holocaust. It's intellectually dishonest.

Go ahead and give this a thumbs down if your Patriotism is of the cheapest kind. Yours is the kind that our forefathers would have laughed at. They demanded that we question authority, as they did. Our Constitution provides us with the means to explore the truth and to keep the government in check. But even the Constitution has been threatened as of late.

So, give it a thumbs down if you wish to cling to your Cheap Patriotism and your unconditional loyalty to a President and a Government that has demonstrated nothing but contempt for Accountability, Truth, Constitution, and most importantly - the 9/11 victims, their families and surviving rescue workers who continue to suffer the loss of their loved ones.

Peace, may the truth be brought forward and the guilty be brought to justice.

Answer 2

referring the California version of this for the next paragraph:
The residential restrictions of laws like this one are ridiculous. There is no correlation between where the offender lives and where they commit an act of abuse. Worse yet it often causes past sex offenders to do a disappearing act.

I am very concerned that some parts of this law might be unenforceable. The electronic monitoring is expensive and may not be effective.

The plea bargain problem should also be considered. Many people who have not even committed offenses end up plea bargaining to avoid a trial. Electronic monitoring for life of people who haven't even committed the crime is a little over the top.

Answer 3

I TOTALLY 110% agree with you. They need to pass Jessica's Law and NOW! Child predators have NO place in society. It's a shame, that a child molestor can get out of prision quicker than a neighborhood drug dealer! We need more focus on protecting our children, we need to become the voices for children, they deserve to feel safe and protected in this society, without having to worry about some sick, low-lifed, piece of trash-predator lurking around the local parks! It sickened me to hear about Christoher Barrios Jr and how that family lived directly accross the street, from that little angel. I cried and cried when I heard about this case. My heart goes out to his family or any family that has had to deal with this. This is more than a tragedy! One child advocate group is trying to get a "one strike and you're out" law passed, meaning automatic LIFE for any child misconduct. I am ALL for that! Really, I think they need automatic execution, but somehow I don't think that will pass..

Anyone who opposesses a 25 yr - life sentence for a child molestor either doesn't have kids, doesn't like kids or they themselves are probably *********** (don't make me say it- I think you know!)

CHILD PREDATORS MAKE ME ILL!

update: CHI GUY- When children are hurt, we don't have time to dicipher which crime was less/more severe, if a child was raped, they were raped, if they were killed, they were killed- PERIOD! I'll say this again, child predators have NO place in society!

Answer 4

I say the same thing. I am from CT and we do not have Jessica's Law here. It amazes me how liberals justify this one. Democrats are far left here. They have a veto proof majority in both houses. They have blocked this.

Lawyers do not like the fact that they are hand cuffed by mandatory sentencing because it takes billing hours away.

This issue is not a liberal/conservative or Republican/Democrat. By in large, liberals are most of the people against these.

Answer 5

Most Republicans want Jessica's law, while a lot of Liberals think kid freaks can be rehabilated.They're down with that kind of stuff. (See some of the above answers)

And one size SHOULD fit all when it comes to our children. You touch a kid, 25 years, next time, death..Seems fair enough to me!

Heres another good link..

http://www.billoreilly.com/outragefunnels

Answer 6

They sholud have the option ; immediate castration ,without anestetics and then they wolud be released but they wolud be forced to wear in public some mark on their clothes , like those unfortunate Jews in ww2. And they wolud be obliged to inplant some sort of chip that , if you just tuch a child by accident , wolud juice your body with egnough electricity to power a smaller state.
Oh , and they sholud publicly have to inform their community of their perversion , even if they move to a new one.

Other option wolud be , life without paroll in solitary , with daily visits from your all friendly gay nazis and bikers that wolud teach him the meaning of molesting....just a tought.

Answer 7

Every case can be different. The idea that every single crime can be boiled down to a minimum sentence is dangerous. There will always be good exceptions. Let the judge decide, with guidelines - that's why judges are there. That applies to all minimum sentences, not just sex crimes. Besides, minimum sentences are just a feel-good measure that doesn't help stop predators. If they aren't stopped by a 10 year sentence, a 25-year sentence won't stop them either.

Answer 8

Since the death penalty is obviously out of the question, add castration on top of that 25 yr minimum... with any luck they wont last the term, since all the hardened criminals hate child offenders!

Answer 9

This is where I feel EVERY state should have an Express lane to the chair. And before any of you candyass's say differently, "When was the last time you were molested?"

Answer 10

Child molestors, rapists, kidnappers are the WORST criminals ever. They deserve to be locked up for LIFE - no excuses.