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We are taught that to work vigorously to secure worldly advantage is a virtue. Then we are taught that to put social programs in place which give to those who wait with folded arms is of virtue. We are taught these costly allowances are god like and elevate mankind.

We often rightly consider those in need of assistance much like our children. So here is the dilemma - do we do our children a god like service if we don't teach them to work hard? Do we do our children a god like service if we allow them to be characterized by self indulgence? Do we do our children a god like service if we allow them the expectation of entitlement based on their relationship to me?

This question is not about the merit or intention of providers or supporters of social programs. Nor is it about the moral and social implications for those who provide social programs. The question is simply about the affect of this apparent double standard on those who are in the social programs.

2007-03-25 11:15:24 · 5 answers · asked by sonoffm 2 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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On disability (getting a check), living in public housing for 3 years, getting energy assistance, various food pantries and medical help.

The system is not designed for you to leave...you want to save money to live somewhere better they increase rent, medical everything.

There are generations of families living in poverty because of their additions and not wanting a better life. I had a better life and threw it away, coming back is hard but most things are possible if you work hard enough and don't let your additions rule you.

2007-03-25 11:31:10 · answer #1 · answered by Dalewolf aka nicksfan052648 2 · 0 0

There is truth in your claim, yet not all on assistance are milking it. Just the majority.
I would like to find out where all the people being taught to work hard are at. In the field of electrical, most of the kids seem to think they should be getting top pay in their first years, they seem to be unclear about the whole work your way up concept.
I dedicated 20 years to developing my career, making many employment changes along the way before I was finally qualified enough to land a job at a top paying employer with excellent benefits. Yet the new recruits, do not seem to appreciate the employer as I do, I could say probably because they haven't really had to struggle yet.

I have observed many people on assistance who seem to be addicted to it. My friend tried to get a homeless guy a job once, but when he found out it was a legitimate job, he turned it down, because he would lose his welfare benefits.

2007-03-25 19:11:06 · answer #2 · answered by Tim 47 7 · 0 0

well, first of all, i dont think either of your opening statements are true, we are not taught to work hard is a virtue, actually in reality we are taught that hard work will barely get you by,,,,,,, those earning the big bucks and having security are not working that hard, they are making money off the middle class and lower middle class, and even those welfare recipients you speak of,,,,,,,
those on welfare are not waiting with folded arms,,,,, it sounds like you believe what many do,, that those on welfare dont want to work, have never worked, and raise children to be on welfare (aka social programs)
the reality is that the majority on social programs are the working poor, actually including our lower ranked military
then, what are the options,,, if a mother with small children leaves welfare to work, she also can lose both health care for her children, child care help for the child,, etc etc,,,,,,,
our programs need revision,,,,,, one example, i as a divorced mother of a small child, received child support, i worked,,,,,,, yet the type jobs i could find, where i could be home with my child before and after school,,,,,, did not offer health insurance,,,, most part time jobs do not,,,,, so when i had a major accident, would my government help me at all? even with medical ? no,,, because i had child support, i would of been much better off to of been on welfare,,,,, let my ex pay me "under the table",,,,,, i would not of had to spend a year doing without medicine i needed,,,,, treatment i needed,,,, nor even money to buy toilet tissue
i started work when i was 16, i was 40 years old, with a 6 year old, when i had my accident, i paid my taxes for over 20 years, yet my government would not give me a penny, so i say all the money i put in, i would much rather it go to a social program, then other expenses, such as the militarty etc,,,,,, our social program is the smallest of our programs, very small compared to defense,,,,,,,,,, who cares if a person feels entitiled,,,,?? our generals sure do

2007-03-25 12:12:28 · answer #3 · answered by dlin333 7 · 0 0

My daughter nearly died from kidney failure and needed a double transplant. Kidney and pancreas.

Without the assistance she got from social programs she would have died.

Her medical expenses were over 1/4 of a million dollars. After she got the transplant she went on to get her masters and has been contributing to society as a tax payer and a caring teacher for the past 15 years.

Your theory is not as absolute as the far right would make it seem. I enjoy publicly humiliating people who make general comments about how people on assistance are freeloaders.

I love the look that they get on their faces when all 250 pounds of me is nose to nose with them telling them this story and letting them know what I think of people who feel this way.

This is perhaps my last negative habit.

love and blessings Don

2007-03-25 13:31:56 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The answer is moderates.

Look at politics. Aren't these the people that 'teach' or decide what should be taught.
Being a moderate is exactly in between your questions.
Another reason is that parenting is extremely hard because tradition and logic are mixed. Logic to different generation varies on intelligence and society or societies technology.

2007-03-25 19:54:48 · answer #5 · answered by Jim M 2 · 0 0

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