You do realize that when Bush vetos this oh so maligned Spending Bill....?

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that he is doing EXACTLY what they have been railing against the democrats for: Denying funds to the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The pork in the bill comments dont fly either...

I guess health care for poor children, funding for schools in rural areas, money to fight forest fires, 2.9 BILLION dollars more than Bush asked for for Katrina relief (a total of 5.3 billion), money for bird flu vaccine purchases, energy assistance for poor people, and 3.7 BILLION in farm subsidies, which i might point goes out to alot of red states, are all bad things.

And please dont make the mistake of thinking all the other $103 billion is going to the troops. A good portion is going to the Iraqis and defense contractors.

When the bills final version gets through, it will include plenty of nice juicy porky incentives for the Republicans to be on board with it, and you know it.

So why not pass the Bill? explain why you care so much now when 'porking' has been rampant for the last 6 years?

All you naysayers: So you're saying you DO have a problem funding Katrina victims? and American farms? Why?

I havent seen a reason yet.

And i have not mentioned ANYTHING partisan yet, yet you assume i'm a democrat because i'm making a logical argument? wow.

And people have the porking reasons wrong. Most items were included to 'bribe' Democrats who thought the Bill didnt go far enough or fast enough on Iraq.

They wanted a FASTER timeline for withdrawal.

Of course its not a fair decision, BUT i hate to break it to you the correct answer is the ELECTORATE.

Read the Constitution.

And as a preemptive addition, I AM a veteran, so dont try that line.

I must point out that the $25 million was for law-abiding spinach FARMERS that were hurt in the e.coli recall last year.

If some of that $25 million helped YOU get YOUR business back on its feet i doubt you would be whining.

Answer 1

well, your incuiating to throw money at things. We tried that with Katrina, and that didn't work. We set up a few stations in which people could go there, and claim that they had damage done, and were given free money, no questions asked or research done. it was BS. so many people just stole from the people that desperately needed that money. Looking at it in an empirical view is just causing more harm then good. How about instead of pork billing it, they just do the things they want with the bill. You see, the republicans, have to decide between either their electors, or the troops? is that a fair decision?

Answer 2

Why not pass the President spending bill if Democrats are worried about the troops so much?

The money for the troops should be free of all the pork. Republican and Democratic special interest groups are forever looking for hand outs. If states want to have free health care then they need to figure out how to fund it without forever hitting up federal governments for more cash.

Stop tobacco farming subsidies all together.

My children have attended many public schools across this country and the "Lack of funding", is not the problem. The way the money is being irresponsible spent is.

Democrats are no worse or better then Republican are when it comes to giving away the United States Tax payers money to further their personal propaganda.

Answer 3

Sorry to all you delusional fake conservatives. The amount of pork and earmarks attached to congressional bills has steadily increased since 2000.
The 2005 House emergency spending bill for Iraq and Afghanistan contained 2,671 earmarks worth $12.2 billion, both record highs.(source-1)

Where was the outrage???

Pres Bush does not really care about pork or spending. He has not met a pork filled bill yet that he declined to sign.
White House actions. Just last week, it became clear the Bush administration won’t identify congressmen pushing executive branch departments and agencies for earmarks.
(Source-2)

Answer 4

This particular "porking" was used as a bribe to bring representatives on board for a troop withdrawal deadline. If everyone is soooo set on this deadline, why was the massive amount of "porking" necessary? And it has already been said that when he vetoes this bill, it will not be overturned because of lack of support in the Senate......Therefore, there must not be the overwhelming support for the troop withdrawal that is claimed.

Answer 5

The Pork was used to Bribe representatives.
25 million for spinach Be real.
Congress is not the commander in chief and does not fall under their responsibility. This did not happen in Bosnia so in one sense you are full of fecal matter.
The Democrats need to show some guts and defund the war and take the fall out of that Vote. The public does not back Defeat either. This bill will not get through the Senate and I will enjoy your spew when it fails. The Republicans will not support the bill for the exception of the Rinos perhaps, Still that means You will not see 60 votes to end debate, and hooray for that.

Answer 6

Citrus fruits 100 million, spinach 25 million, and I forgot the storage of peanuts amount but it was up there PLUS the FDA getting new accommodations. Poor children funding as well as schools by most would not be considered pork...

Answer 7

Although the things the libs want funded for may be legitimate and worthy, they have nothing to do with the subject at hand. Which is our funding of troops in Iraq. The libs seem to be holding our troops hostage and the "ransom" is supporting all these programs that have nothing to do with the war. Your statement about the "nice juicy porky incentives for the Republicans" is rather presumptious and lacks any merit.

Answer 8

I would have no problem with it. It does cover some important areas.

What I DON'T want is the democrats using this spending as ammunition to complain about how much we're spending on the war. They MUST take some responsibility in this budget.

Answer 9

He will veto, and the funds lacking the troops will put the breaks on a war that was lost long by the COC.

He didn't listen to our heads of military branches, only to those that cosigned his bs. He has only himself to blame.

With the abu ghareb incident and others, our military people involved testified under oath, it's only right that their leaders do the same.

Iraq has their own money in the bank, but it's frozen. They prefer to spend ours.

The republicans and the democrats are making a stand right now that will either bury them, or carry them in the next election.

Only the democrats are listening to the American citizens. The republicans are listening to their pride and ego's, while they cry as they slide down their own swords.

Answer 10

President Bush will not have to Veto the bill. It will never leave committee in the state it is in. Congress will present a clean bill with no pork and no dead lines.