Should we think the same way as this expert on Islam?

Question

Islam Expert: Netherlands Tolerates Muslim Excesses

AMSTERDAM, 24/03/07 - Dutch politicians and media are downplaying excesses of multicultural society and thereby increasing these, in the view of Islam expert Hans Janssen. "The Netherlands should resist, using non-peaceful means", he argues in weekly magazine Opinio.

Jansen, Professor of Modern Islamic Ideology at Utrecht University, characterizes the Dutch as inhabitants of "a peaceful enclave" who have, however, "forgotten that peace sometimes needs to be defended through violence". A peaceful society that wishes to remain existent and stay peaceful "will have to find a way to defend itself through non-peaceful means from people who are not peaceful", as the Arabist writes. "It will be hard to explaining this convincingly to all those respectable and friendly people in the (Christian coalition parties) CDA and ChristenUnie. And to the rest."...

http://www.nisnews.nl/public/240307_2.htm

Answer 1

Islam is the enemy, not because we say so, but because THEY say so. They say all infidels (Jews and their allies) must die. That makes them the enemy by choice. They have a name for their war on Jews. It's called jihad. We did not declare war on them. They declared war on us. We were drafted to be their enemy. They forced it on us.

We have a right to defend ourselves. If someone hits me, I got a right to fight back, blow for blow.
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Answer 2

Maybe people are missing the point. At a certain point, normally peaceful people sometimes need to use violence to stop violent fundamentalists. I'm not sure about the use of fundamentalists by moderates to promote ideology. That doesn't need to meet with violence against the moderates. But yes, sometimes the violent people need to be dealt with using violence, after negotiations fail, the alternative, allowing fundamentalists to have their way by using threats and violence, is immoral. This should be obvious. But I don't think a society should commit violence against moderates. However, in the case of the museum, the museum shouldn't remove passages about the Armenian genocide. That would be like a museum removing holocaust materials from a WWII exhibit to appease German sensibilities. To their credit, I know of no examples of that.

The removal of the Armenian Genocide is propagandist censorship.

People say intolerance is wrong. In general, yes. But why should a society tolerate threats and violence to promote an ideology of hate. This should be obvious, but I don't mean all Muslims. I mean violent fundamentalists that use threats and violence in the first place. I suggest the same treatment with fundamentalist Christians that bomb abortion clinics. I'm basically anti-abortion, but Christians shouldn’t attack people, and if there is no other option to prevent the attack or bring the perpetrators to justice, then yes violence is necessary.

In short, sometimes violence is necessary and is the moral course of action. For preservation of peace for the general public.

Answer 3

USA already does think like that. The Dutch are slow to figure things out. First Pim Fortuyn then Theo van Gogh get killed for their views by Muslims. Who's next?

As it is, Netherlands, once the land of tulips and cheese-with a small size and population, will lose its culture to Islam! Germany, Ireland, Belgium are not far behind.

Islamic Ideology justifys killing to satisfy their own consciences...kill the person who disagrees in the name of Allah.

Answer 4

this is absolute BS!! In Jerusalem before the crusades the jews christians and muslims all lived near their personal relics in PEACE. The notion that Islam has since Bush took office become a radical and violent religion is total crap. Christians have done the legwork for killings. The american indians, crusades, burning witches give the entire thing a rest. The problem is that WWI demonstrated the a war set off by treaties ends in disaster and no one is interested so we have to have wars now for ideologies!! I dont buy this crap for a minute. I know nice muslims and bad ones good and bad christians as well.

Answer 5

What an idiot. After the killing last year of Theo van Gogh, a Dutch filmmaker who was making a movie on the treatment of women in Muslim culture, you'd think he'd have a damn clue who the enemy is.

Answer 6

There are Radical Muslims who believe in an eye for an eye, reducing their values to a vicious cycle of kill or be killed society. This makes their followers an 'army' of martyrs. Human bombs that can be sen to do any violent act because they are sacrificing themselves to do it. To allow any politician to come into the country and promote violence must be stopped.

Answer 7

This was sparked by the killing of a play writer who was Vincent van Gogh great grand nephew.

Answer 8

Yes. War World 2 for example.

No, because it doesn't really happen like that anymore.

Answer 9

No.
Islam = bad
Kill the infidels = bad
Until they figure out a renaissance they should go f off.

Answer 10

I'm other words, he's suggestting attacking people simply because they are from a different culture.

We've had groups like this in the US -- KKK, Nazis, etc.