Are guys being more knowledgeable and assertive in the dating/marriage arena lately?

Question

I've talked with people about the battle of the sexes for a couple of decades now, and I've noticed that even young guys are more knowledgeable, careful, and assertive in dealing with women than they were even 5 years ago. The main 3 things that guys seem to understand more now are indirect communication from women, the bad boy vs. nice guy thing, and the dangers of marriage for men. Some of them are just dropping out of the serious dating arena altogether, even if they're good looking and successful. Where is this trend going in your opinion?

Answer 1

Guys are finally figuring out that way too many women have taste for **** when it comes to men, so they're acting like ******* to get as much action as possible.

It's hard to find a single/divorced (heterosexual) women over the age of 30 who hasn't had some low-life scumbag ruin her credit, sleep around on her, and possibly beat her up. All of the sudden it dawns on them in the midst of their trailer that there might actually be some nice guys out there.

Answer 2

Both sexes should be cautious about marriage. I think that if two people decide they would like to marry they should sit down and discuss openly and honestly about what their expectations are from such a relationship. A couple should be on the same page about what their plans, dreams, and financial forecast. If one or the other is working at a menial job so that the other person can work towards a higher paying job then this should also be worked into the contract. A marriage is supposed to be a mutual partnership that both people are treated equitably in. I don't agree with either party leaving the marriage with the majority of the assets while the other person is scrabbling around trying to make ends meet or feed and clothe children. This goes for both sexes. I think that if a couple sat down with a financial planner before the actual ceremony (as unromantic as this may seem it is a very pragmatic plan), lawyers would be making far less when the time came to battle over the accrued assets. Sorry if I got off track with my answer.

Answer 3

I think that's just a stupid stereotype created by feminist's and now used by alot of women. There plenty of nice intelligent caring passionate mean out there like myself. It's just women tend to go for the models instead of the painter and that’s how it has always been. And when they give views on men they really are just giving views on there on shallow dating habits and not just the mens. Of course there are shitty men I'm not saying that. But the thought that women are more passionate and caring is pure poppycock. I think more men are becoming more feminine as you would say though over the past couple of years. This is due to alot of places being so repressed by religion and the tough guy stuff. The men are starting to rebel from that and not succomb to the whole macho thing. And that is why alot of kids are liberal and stuff nowadays.

Answer 4

The marriage thing is very apparent. Recently the New York Times reported that 51% of women are single and asserted this as female independence to go along with political correctness. The other side to this is, as you observed, men are really starting to see how dangerous marriage is for them. They see how men get ruined in divorce.

Seeing this lead me to find how men are discriminated against in many other ways. Hopefully this trend will repeat itself in many other men and women who really want equality.

Answer 5

more and more guys are giving up altogether on women, figuring better that they preserve their self respect and sanity than having to deal with a bunch of whacked out, narcissistic pigs. One guy I know, is a nice guy, never married, alweays has about a dozen needy, selfish women floating around him. Of course he never bites and actually dates any of them, preferring to know at the end of the day he cannot be trapped. I see his example as the future of how men will deal with women. The idea that you can wink, flirt, even kiss or sleep with a girl, but never, ever let it get out of control, since American women cannot love anythign other than themselves.

Answer 6

Men and women will continue to evolve. We are both equally intellegent in areas of intrigue. Politicaly men are depicted as a primary, ("Women and Children first"! )Is the understood policy(among the honorable men) when there is a crisis situation and expected socialy to be the macho or the brave.The woman, an instinctive survivor, will not question the cry. They will take the children with them as they leave the men behind, it is their rightful place, to be first out of danger, or harms way. It is a woman's world.
Men in custody battles are under close scutiny as far as care for the child. Reguardless of his ability to simply provide for the child. Men are more often stereotyped by their ability to be chivilrous. Women are granted a considerable level of "grace".
Both sexes communicate on an indirect level . Men are from Mars...Women are fresh from a princess pagent. Humor is a perfect example of communication, without humor involved there becomes a level of competition between a pair. Pride is quick to rear its head soon for both. Misunderstandings are obsticals even for perfectly intellegent couples. The ability to understand your partner, and be aware of how you are being understood is a battle that requires a hightened level of respect at all times.When both respect each other equally there is more of a "chance" for a lasting relationship.
I do think men have tired of chancing future plans in the dating area. Due to the lack of balance in the outcome of disagreement, Women are benifited more often than men.However, in past times women were allowed to be socially abused in a physical manor. The term "Rule Of Thumb", was actually established as a standard that a man can be punished in a court of law if he hit his mate with anything larger in diameter than the diameter of his very thumb...reguardless of the severity. Anything less than the diameter of thumb..."she had it comming". Women would often chose a mate primarily acording to the diameter of her suiter's thumb! Trends come and go, Fortunately we have evolved!
Simply providing a respectful level of humor and intellectual stimulation is not enough to maintain a relationship, Unless there is a mutual satisfaction. Both sexes require flexibilty and understanding. It all comes down to individual character, and the ability to be consistant... Both sexes simply need to be satisfied , not victimised. Men are aware of being the latter as well.
Women today are more understood as a voice of reason, than past times.
I could go on an on..., but my wife would appreciate my help with the dishes more than being selfish and trying to figure out the answer to the worlds problems.
Men are going to greater lenghths to satisfy his lady these days. We can allways do more...Women are more entertaining when they are satisfied!

Answer 7

I'm not entirely sure I like the terminology here - battle, assertive, dealing, arena, dangers etc. Isn't it just about having fun and seeing how things go?

Maybe I'm just a wussy UK male, but I've never thought dating needed any sort of tactical approach - folks just need to relax and enjoy themselves a bit more.

Answer 8

For the past half-century, the West has devoted a lot of focus to "articulating the feminine voice". Feminists would claim that men have been doing that all along, because men wrote history, psychology, etc, but the men in those positions were articulating what they saw as the human voice, not a particularly male voice in terms of political agenda.
___The result of feminist navel-gazing is that every iteration of the feminine experience is out there in popular culture and in the conventional wisdom taught in school and college. It is part of the solipsism of this conventional wisdom and popular culture that feminism has defined "human" in feminine terms, so that much of what is naturally masculine, say, the rambunctiousness of young boys, is considered anomalous to the way "humans" should act, and is suppressed from an early age. At the same time, every little hardship of girls is understood as the result of "the society" which is implicitly or explicitly taken as a patriarchy, even when in terms of life-failures (suicide, criminality, educational failure, and life expectancy), males do far worse than females.
___It doesn't surprise me that the numbers of broken men on the fringes should be on the rise, as well as the numbers of men who, lacking any understanding of what's going on, just react with hostility or disdain toward women generically. And the numbers increase, despite the best efforts of feminists to employ the "better reporting" fallacy in order to claim that things have always been like they are today.
___Civilized boys and men know girls and women better than the other way around because the literature that tries to look seriously at boys' and men's experience IN ITS OWN TERMS doesn't strike as resonant a chord in conventional wisdom as the latest feminist screed or alarm, and is virtually ignored. Male experience in its own terms isn't the subject of as much attention in school, college, or in popular culture.
___Feminists keep raising the bar, distorting the criteria of "equality" so that it's measured in such feminine-friendly terms that all questions asked of it come out with answers supporting more feminism. And as boys fail in ever-greater numbers, in accordance witht he self-fulfillling prophecies foisted on them by the women in their lives and by popular culture, the ones who are socialized by the society learn to pay increasing attention to the cues of the females in their lives. At least the boys who haven't already revolted.

Answer 9

I think that guys are starting to understand more about how to deal with women. They're still very confused, don't get me wrong! lol! But I think they are more aware of what is acceptable behaviour in this day and age with regards to how to treat a female. And it's cool when you hear other guys putting other guys in check for behaviour that would've been excepted 5 to ten years ago. We're moving forward.

Answer 10

Hmmmm...it's news to me that "even young guys are more knowledgeable, careful, and assertive in dealing with women" these days. I'll watch this question. Seems there are more male chauvinist pigs that ever before. That's not to throw aspersions on you. Maybe you are one of the few and the brave.