How could God create you,destined to fall, when He gave a sacrifice for you,and you simply have to accept it?

Question

You stand or fall by your own decision.

You humbly accept God's full pardon
OR IN YOUR ARROGANCE!!! You say " I do not need your forgiveness God, I HAVE DONE NOTHING TO BE FORGIVEN FOR." That is true arrogance, just like when Satan said "I deserve to be equal with God and worshipped as well." SOME PEOPLE WORSHIP THEIR OWN INTELLECT. Do you see it????

Fud Sil is your old screen name Godless? You seem only to have hateful answers just like she did, nothing loving, caring, or concerned for the feelings of others. If not, you now know who your soul mate is. Together you two can hurt as many people as you like.

Answer 1

yes i see it.

Answer 2

Do I see what? Do I see that you are trying to proselytize with this question? Yes, I do see that!

In my faith, G-d didn't create a humanity "destined to fall."

You really need to look up the concept of "free gift." It's not a free gift if people have to do something in order to receive it. That's called "spiritual blackmail."

You are the one showing the arrogance here, sir (or ma'am).

Answer 3

why in the world do you believe in a god that is so weak that beings it created to have no free will are suddenly powerful enough to fight back and attack your god like the story that you believe with satan as the fallen angel?

why in the world do you believe in a god that is so weak that it is capable of dying?

why in the world do you believe in a god that is so weak that it's losing the supposed battle for souls against that fallen angel you believe in?

me?

my G-d is ONE
my G-d is the only power in the universe
my G-d is not weak or fallible or in danger of losing control of it's angels
my G-d doesn't need to sacrifice itself

Answer 4

You're crazy. You do not make ANY sense at all and then you ask, "do you see it?"
You don't know where and when you are. You're on earth, at the end of a civilisation. Someone's probably gonna look at you during the war and decide to gut you like a pig, 'cause you must look so stupid....

Answer 5

God(s) don't exist. This *question* and all your other questions tonight have been nothing but religious ranting. You should be seeking psychological help to deal with your paranoid delusions.

Answer 6

There has to be an offer in order for there to be something to accept.

Answer 7

Halo ... for the 1001 time ..... tell him to show himself to me ..... Tell God not to worship his own intellect too ..... Tell him not to be arrogance too .... oh ... right ..... you cannot talk to him, just pure delusional.

Answer 8

Intellect is something to be proud of, not thrown away

Answer 9

Okay, do you now rest your case for the defence of atheism?

Answer 10

pardon for what? I didn't eat the damned apple--your god is a jerk, screw you and your god

Answer 11

yes and also

Rom 9:15 For He said to Moses, "I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will pity whomever I will pity." Ex. 33:19
Rom 9:16 So, then, it is not of the one willing, nor of the one running, but of the One showing mercy, of God.
Rom 9:17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very thing I raised you up, so that I might display My power in you, and so that My name might be publicized in all the earth." Ex. 9:16
Rom 9:18 So, then, to whom He desires, He shows mercy. And to whom He desires, He hardens.
Rom 9:19 You will then say to me, Why does He yet find fault? For who has resisted His will?
Rom 9:20 Yes, rather, O man, who are you answering against God? Shall the thing formed say to the One forming it, Why did You make me like this? Isa. 29:16
Rom 9:21 Or does not the potter have authority over the clay, out of the one lump to make one vessel to honor, and one to dishonor? Jer. 18:6
Rom 9:22 But if God, desiring to demonstrate His wrath, and to make His power known, endured in much long-suffering vessels of wrath having been fitted out for destruction,
Rom 9:23 and that He make known the riches of His glory on vessels of mercy which He before prepared for glory,

Jer 18:6 O house of Israel, can I not do to you as this potter? says Jehovah. Behold, as the clay in the potter's hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel.
Jer 18:7 The instant I speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, or to break down, or to destroy;
Jer 18:8 if that nation against whom I have spoken will turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do to it.
Jer 18:9 And the instant I speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;
Jer 18:10 if it does evil in My eye, not to obey My voice, then I will repent of the good which I had said to do good to it.
Jer 18:11 Now then, please speak to the men of Judah and to those living in Jerusalem, saying, So says Jehovah, Behold, I am forming evil against you, and devising a plan against you. Now each one turn from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good.
Jer 18:12 And they say, It is hopeless. For we will walk after our own thoughts, and we will each one do according to the stubbornness of his evil heart.
Jer 18:13 So Jehovah says this: Ask now among the nations, Who has heard things like these? The virgin of Israel has done a very horrible thing.
Jer 18:14 Does the snow of Lebanon cease from the rock of the field? Or are the cold flowing waters that come from another place uprooted?
Jer 18:15 But My people have forgotten Me. They have burned incense to vain idols; and they have caused them to stumble in their ways, from the old paths, to walk in bypaths, not on the highway;